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Catseyetiger
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Ad's on Crunchyroll have been for and only for Crunchyroll meaning I a non subscriber have not seen anything thing else in one ad played since the start of the site.
This is a little shocking seeing as how people who stream on the site with out being a member might expect to see some corps ad's placed into the mix at least some of the time. Also I would think that they would grant out side licenses due to how nico nico player is so bad in japan. Lets say they use the same player as Funimation with all it messed up weakness for streaming anime. This would be a major turn off to many. lots of factors will affect the launch of this site, the best model they could follow so far would be Crunchyroll. this dose not mean it will happen. |
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zensunni
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When you consider that almost all of the new Winter 2013 shows in Japan were simulcast, it is kind of hard to have "new licenses". In addition, the site is owned by the license holders, so they are not acquiring licenses at all, at least at first. They did mention that they would be working with other studios to stream their content in the future, but at first, it is only the stuff by the 6 shareholder studios. Which leads to:
Nearly everything? Until they make good on their plan to stream non-shareholder content, the shows they are able to aggregate will be pretty limited. Granted, some of those shows have a large following, like Madoka, One Piece, and Mobile Suit Gundam, but it is still a very, very small percentage of the total streaming anime available in a given season. For the winter season, Crunchyroll had about three times the number of series that Daisuki would have had from just the shareholder studios. For example, ignoring continuing series like One Piece, the shows that the six studios were involved in during the Winter 2013 season were: Love Live Oreshura Vivdred Operation Bakumatsu Gijinden Roman Precure Sasami-san@Ganbaranai Precure is not simulcast anywhere. Sasami-san@Ganbaranai is on TAN. The rest are on Crunchyroll. Until the service is up an running, there is no way to know how successful it will be, but based on their pre-launch propaganda, it doesn't look like a threat to any existing streaming service, and I'll believe that they can get streaming rights for material from rival studios that have no financial stake in the service, essentially putting money into the pockets of a competitor, when I see it happen with my own eyes. |
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st_owly
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Before I subscribed, I used to get ads for all kinds of random things, all of which were completely irrelevant to me. However, unlike a lot of internet ads, they were targeted to my location (the UK) so maybe it depends on which country you're in as to what kind of ads you get. |
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leokiko
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Will it be worldwide?
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ChibiGoku
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I believe that was confirmed by WTK when he (she?) emailed them. |
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yuna49
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How about Magi, Space Brothers, and Shin Sekai Yori? These are all A-1 productions. Seeing "Aniplex" in the list of studios made me think that releases from the ever more prolific A-1 would eventually end up being distributed by Daisuki. That has to worry Crunchyroll some I'd expect. |
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agila61
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What reason is there to think they would get "nearly everything"? These licensors handle a number of simulcast series every year, but they don't handle the majority of series. The guy selling Daisuki is, of course, focusing on stuff they will have, and ignoring stuff they won't have, because he's the guy selling Daisuki and its not his job to sell the shows handled by the other international licensors. But he's not given any indication about talking about anything except all the Daisuki's licensor's series also being available on Daisuki, because all the series he cites are licensed by partners in the Daisuki joint venture.
The lead anime studio doesn't determine any of this, its the member of the production committee that holds the international rights. If they are the licensor for the international rights, then they can stream directly from their joint venture as well as licensing streaming rights out to Crunchyroll, Sentai, Funimation, Viz, Aniplex USA, NIS America, etc.
Worldwide outside Japan is what they keep saying. And it makes sense ... since they are the overseas licensors (the people who sell the rights to others), they don't have to worry about things like rights getting cut up into regions or conflicting rights with broadcasters (eg, Animax Asia) or home video distributors ... they just write those contracts in a way that they keep the rights they started out with, and they are good to go, worldwide outside of Japan. So basically they just region block their whole site in Japan.
Look at the list of Winter2013 Anime they handled: Love Live on CR: Blocked in Europe outside of UK/Nordic, Middle East, Africa outside of South Africa, all of Asia Oreshura & Vivdred Operation ... both on CR: Blocked in Latin America, Europe outside of UK/Eire, Africa outside of South Africa, Middle East and all of Asia Bakumatsu Gijinden Roman on CR: Blocked in Europe, Australia and New Zealand, Africa, Middle East and Asia Sasami-san@Ganbaranai: Sentai in North America, blocked everywhere else, Anime-On-Demand in UK, blocked everywhere else, KzPlay in France & Francophone Europe, blocked everywhere else Precure: many of these are not licensed for international streaming at all ~ the Encyclopedia has Dokidoki Precure as unlicensed, though I wouldn't. So say you are an anime fan in Portugal. getting 5 new Winter Series from Crunchyroll. I'd reckon you'd look on adding 6 more, plus a big back catalog of titles that have never streamed to Portugal, as a pretty big improvement. Still more someone from most of Africa, or Germany, getting 3 news Winter series on Crunchyroll, blocked at Hulu (so also Viz), Funimation, TAN, Anime-on-Demand ... six new series is not something that would strike you as lame. Even someone in Sweden, with 14 out of 17 of Crunchyroll's new series, you'd be adding access to five more series. |
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11G4GUNOT
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Daisuki vs Funimation vs Hulu vs viki vs YouTube vs NicoNico vs theanimenetwork.com vs Crunchyroll > outside United States = ??? = PROFIT
time for this site to unblock youtube and funimation's and hulu's international siteblock outside us |
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agila61
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Your point being? The notion for Daisuki would seem to be ad-streaming as self-funding advertisement for the subscription service, and merchandise as an additional profit center, leveraging the full benefit of global distribution outside of Japan to maximize the potential subscribing audience.
What does "this site" refer to? ANN? Daisuki? Daisuki certainly won't do anything to unblock Funimation and Hulu's region blocking. If it makes more Global outside Japan streaming licenses available, it might help unblock some Crunchyroll and possibly some Youtube region blocking, since its lack of availability of the licenses on a single contract that leads to region restrictions on Crunchyroll. |
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Sukigu
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As a Portuguese anime fan, I'm really putting a lot of faith in Daisuki. I don't get it why we have so few anime titles licensed by Crunchyroll (our only simulcast source) each season when there's absolutely no other company getting them for us. Does anybody here have a clue about these licensing quirks? I'm not very proud of saying it, but I watch fansubs for almost every single anime I watch each season. For instance, this Winter season there is literally not a single available show I like. Anime titles here are scarce, almost nobody picks them up, and the few stores that carry anime are usually limited to Ghibli films and a couple old shows (and on DVD only). Even the first (and only) anime-dedicated Portuguese TV network, Animax, was shut down 2 years ago, not before having replaced the majority of its programming with American TV shows and movies already shown on countless other networks. I'm really looking forward to what this new streaming website has to offer to everybody! |
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samuelp
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I'm not sure why everyone is thinking that just because they replied that Daisuki the website would be "worldwide" that everything they stream will be "worldwide".
Their reply said nothing about every video stream being available worldwide. In fact I'll bet you that the streaming part will be limited to the US and Canada for most titles at first. |
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zensunni
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Ah, the power of selective editing... The part you cut out of that sentence was:
Those were all continuing series, not new ones in the Winter season. Granted, other than Space Brothers, they are not particularly "like" One Piece, but I only used One Piece as the example because it was specifically mentioned in this article. Also, as I commented in another post about Daisuki, which I cribbed that list from, I must admit, Aniplex has been using a shotgun approach to their shows for the most part. Most of the series that they license for streaming are available on Crunchyroll or TAN, sometimes both (TAN if Sentai is involved), Hulu, and Crackle. They have used this strategy of multiple outlets for the past few seasons. I don't see this outlet as changing that approach. And, as already commented, just because A-1 is a subsidary of Aniplex doesn't mean that A-1 shows automatically have Aniplex on the production committee, which is what determines licensing. For instance, Fairy Tail and Fractale are both shows that A-1 is listed on for both Anime Production and as being on the Production committee. Neither of these has Aniplex listed anywhere on the page. |
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yuna49
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Well, you have to admit it is not an obvious jump from One Piece to Uchuu Kyoudai or Shin Sekai Yori.
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agila61
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I'm game. But I'm as poor as a church mouse, so what stakes do you have in mind? |
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11G4GUNOT
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>Your point being? yours taken and >What does "this site" refer to? ANN? Daisuki? Daisuki not ANN. the world needs Daisuki not FUNIMATION and hulu block outside the USA and so does YouTube all FUNIMATION licenses I rather take all except FUNIMATION internet censorship seriously |
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