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Reliak
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Most of the American manga actually have the same retail price as Tokyopop's imports, so while it might be easier for TP to purchase them, the fans pay the same. And the quality on a lot of them actually isn't very good, when I bother to flip through them in the bookstore. I know I'm not interested in buying most of their American-made titles. Some people get tired of waiting for the series to continue. Also, when all the fans have a copy of volume X of the manga, you aren't going to sell many more copies of volume X. You won't make more money until you issue volume Y. I do read several "unpopular" titles. However, since they're less well known, word-of-mouth is less likely to get around, and fewer people will buy them. If people hear the name "Bleach" or "Naruto" often enough, they'll pick it up just to see what the hype is. If no one's heard of a series except for the one-page ad in the back of another one of their manga, they're less likely to buy it. Licensing lesser-known titles isn't a bad thing at all, but there's just more likely to be less sales. |
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dmanjdb
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Keep in mind that Naturo (and other SJ) are realese 1st on SJ's Ahntology (sp?) then on GN format. That the reason. Tokyopop doesn't have an ahntology series. You know how much I have to wait for Planetes? |
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darkhunter
Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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The top 10? Naruto, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist, Kenshin. Of course these title are going to sell well due to the huge anime fanbase. I own all the latest release to these 4 titles because they are popular as hell.
Well yeah, Dead End is more complicated and complex than your average straightfoward Hero fight villain and save the world day, so not everyone will get it. I'm not complaing that popular title are bad. I'm saying that popular title doesn't always equal good and people here usually think because a company own most of the popular title that it means they're the best. Yes in term of sale, but then people just look at TP and say they're crap because they don't license "good" manga when most of these people probably read very few of these unhidden manga to say they're crap.
Of course I'm aware of that. But it's not like BECK is selling like hot cakes either. It's a long series 24+ volume, and if it's not selling and the company keep releaseing it, then eventually the title will be drop. The market has been oversatured and bookshelf are more limited. Longer release time gives bookstore more time to sell them before they are sent back to publisher. Looking at all the rate that all these company are releaseing each much, eventually not everything is going to be release the same. The wait isn't a problem for me, Blade of the Immortal is release like once a year, and it's something I look foward to every year. And don't get me wrong, I love SJ titles as much as the next guy, owning 61 Shonen Jump titles and One Piece being my favorite. They're just popular because they simply appeal to larger demographic. Last edited by darkhunter on Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:25 pm; edited 5 times in total |
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barbapapa
Posts: 224 Location: Belgium |
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fact that Dead end was "complex" wasnt really the problem for me; but thats another discussion And of course titles that sell good arent always better than titles that dont; its just a hype thats been created by the masses cause those are easy to watch. Not everyone is willing to make an effort and really get enlightened by the underrated gems there are, that goes for everything not just manga. And TP definitely does license good manga, but on a 1 to 10 ratio... |
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Truth_Teller
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I'm so glad it's not Tokyopop. Go Viz. They deserve it for putting out some of the best manga. Tokyopop is just straight out unrespectable company IMO.
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DemonEyesLeo
Posts: 844 Location: Japan |
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Wow. Naruto with 6 volumes in the top 13? Well I was kinda expecting it with the broadcasting of the anime on TV.
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Gauss
Posts: 519 Location: Finland |
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All I want to know is where I can buy Viz stock?
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darkhunter
Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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Well if you're interested in what Viz got to say, there's an interview with the VP of Viz. Link The article is interesting because it mention that Viz is own by Shogakukan and Shueisha, so they pretty much locked in all the well known content. Another tidbit, which I already mention is that Shelf space are becoming more limited. Kenshin is doing monthly, it's probably be Viz's first and last monthly titles Viz put out.
It's pretty much expected. When Sin City (movie) open up at the box office, all 7 Sin City TBP books were in the top 10 of all comics book sales. |
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noneko_Mamimi
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Yeah, Viz is doing really well now, and they've got a lot of great titles to offer. I myself just bought Hot Gimmick yesterday. |
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GoodLuckSaturday
Posts: 567 Location: Indiana |
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Kenshin was kind of an exception, wasn't it? I mean, the series wasn't getting any younger or more well known. The potential of a new story was known, so the release was sped up. Viz will do it again if they find one of their series would benefit more from it. You can say limited shelf space, but since half a rack at my local Waldenbooks is occupied by Kenshin alone, I wouldn't worry about it if it were my manga taking up the shelf space. Other publishers may have to worry about it, but right now, Viz is in control, and they could release Naruto monthly if they wanted, and it would be a smashing success. |
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CCSYueh
Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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To be fair, that is 6 volumes of the same hot title as people are obviously playing catch-up.
I still prefer TP. Their translations seem smoother. Of course I don't read Japanese, so they might be totally off, but ADV & CPM, for example, still feel a bit stiff. Viz is good, & they have a variety of prices, don't forget. I know DBZ is cheaper--isn't Kenshin & Naruto? I know Ouran & Meru Puri that I've been following are. They have their $10, then the $8 line & a $9, don't they? Put the Right Stuf sales on top & I'm getting DBZ for about $4.80, Ouran for $5.44 & the other line for $6, so I can get 2 volumes of Viz's Jump line for what I'm paying for CMX or Del Rey which I haven't found a decent regular outlet for a discount for(thus I read fewer titles of theirs. I will pay whatever for my yaoi, though). TP's all $6. So Viz does also have the price factor--if I were a kid on an allowance $8 sounds better than $10. TP has a lot of excellent Korean titles which we won't be seeing from Viz (at least by what they've said at Comic-con). Rebirth, Eternity, & Threads of Time are among my fav titles right now. And while we've had some milder yaoi from Viz(in the vein we've seen from TP in Fake & Gravitation-and doon't forget they've censored some of it-DoD), TP has given us Blu. |
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Reliak
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The only thing I've seen from Blu is Earthian, and while that was very well done...have they put anything else out on that label? Viz tends to have more shounen and hetero shoujo. But their edits...it's stupid, really, considering they're putting out Angel Sanctuary, which has homosexuality, crossdressing, tentacle rape, religious themes, transgenders, rape, dismemberment, violent murder, and incest, in no particular order. Making edits on any other series really just seems pointless. |
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.Sy
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Well congratulations to them. It's not a huge wonder, really, since VIZ gets the "big shots" to license. I would assume they have really good relationships with Weekly Jump. Less editing though, please?
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Karala
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Tokyopop is only the distributor, they aren't the company its self. Blu has also released Wild Rock, Love Mode and Shinobu Kokoro. In the coming months there's going to be Shout Out Loud! (I love this one), Gorgeous Carat, Man's Best Friend and Menkui!. |
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Wyvern
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I got Kenshin. I don't tend to buy manga if I've already seen the anime, but Kenshin is the exception. And not just because half the manga was never animated (in any way that did it justice, at least.)
Since when is Fruits Basket not in the top ten, though? That series is so popular I can find it among the paperbacks at the supermarket. I've never seen any Viz titles there... |
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