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Valhern
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While I'm on the side that believes this series is unwatchable, I do sympathize a lot with how the production crew really couldn't manage the work they were assigned to or even conncect properly with the director's ambitions and viceversa.
I hope it doesn't end it here for these guys nor for a future adaptation. Glad to have the article for more insight on that regard.
Why worried, though? I don't know how well Berserk has been faring in past volumes but animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-06/japanese-comic-ranking-june-26-july-2/.118505 the last ranking isn't bad at all. Surely not the peak of the series, and I don't know how much good did this adaptation do for an increasing in overall sales, but if you are a manga fan and don't care for this animated iteration, then I see no reason for worry if the show bombs. |
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Mr. sickVisionz
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It had some weak spots but I thought all of the big highlight fights looked pretty awesome in the style they were going for.
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whiskeyii
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I think the Guilty Gear Xrd folks at GDC said that software is proprietary, so I'm sure it'd cost an arm and a leg to even get the rights to use in the first place. |
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7jaws7
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The new Berserk makes Claymore's anime adaptation look like a masterpiece.
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thekingsdinner
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I tried to watch this, I really really tried, but I came to a conclusion that if there is one, just one, anime that I truly cannot stand, it has to be this one. I truly think with the right people it could've been decent, but as the article makes clear, production was doomed from the start.
In the span of 4 or so episodes I kept thinking to myself "is this supposed to be Berserk?". I mean, I see an ugly model of Guts CLANGing some things on screen and trying to look cool, but what I definitely do not see... is Berserk. The only reason why I'll always remember this show is because I make these dumbass CLANG compilation videos which got far more popular than I ever would've imagined.
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EnigmaticSky
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I completely disagree with the statement that Berserk would have to be made with CG. The original anime adaptation still holds up today, and it was made in 1997. Sure, it didn't have all the detailed linework you see in the manga, and it did use a lot of tricks of the time to mask limited animation, but it did have something of a storybook feel to its look, and it effectively used the medium to its advantage to faithfully tell the story of Berserk. Some of those still images are still burned into my mind, like when Guts stares up at Griffith when he overhears him saying that anyone who looks up to him could never be an equal or a friend. Even if the animation wasn't as detailed as the manga, or as fluid as other shows even of its time, it understood atmosphere, pacing, the source material, and just effective direction, all of which the new adaptation lacks. I get that it was a troubled production, but beyond using jank cgi it just fails to competently understand how to effectively tell a story through the medium of cinema. Add to that the fact it is visually a hot mess, and that aesthetics absolutely do matter in the medium, and the result is just tragic.
Maybe they could try to salvage this whole thing and do a "Berserk: Brotherhood." Not saying that it would be easy, or cheap, but there is no way that Berserk is unadaptable. Even if you get some amazing director like Masaaki Yuasa who does a unique but simplified art style, if it can effectively tell the story of Berserk, and keep the spirit of it, I would be so happy. At least for now we have the manga. |
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MarshalBanana
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danpmss
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What saddens me the most is that, even with that horrible animation, you could see the producers and animators were actually doing their very best.
The amateur direction was a big issue, but said director actually had good and enthusiastic ideas for the project, which could have been good, if only they worked out... I hope they figure out everything they need for Season 3 (after all, "The Story Continues", even without a proper preview). Their corrections in the BluRay releases weren't half bad either (bad camera movements, bad motion in general, for characters and background, bad frame issues, terrible pale 3D animation being substituted by fully well made 2D animation... the list goes on, if anyone is curious about the results, I highly recommend checking out for yourselves). Season 2 will probably solve some issues as well, I hope, so I'm gonna wait for its BD release as well. |
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XerneasYveltal
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Berserk has the potential to establish a cult following despite all the flaws plaguing its production values.
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Jose Cruz
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So, is there a CG TV Anime that worked?
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Kemono Friends
Hmm, a Berserk / Kemono Friends crossover... |
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Tera_GX
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I stopped following most news of the new adaptation after dropping the Summer 2016 season, so there's one surprise I still don't have an answer to: how did it get a second season? (or at least how with the same studio?)
The bad animation definitely hurt its success. I was new to Berserk, didn't mind the story, I'm open to CG anime, but the extreme animation failure was the reason I dropped it to instead better spend my time on anything else. It's easy to tell others went through the same. I've heard Berserk hyped for decades, and it looks like I'm still not about to get into it. So why did they get approved for more after having hurt it? Last edited by Tera_GX on Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:13 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Souther
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Nice to get confirmation on the background of this anime's production. Though, the visuals and animation were only part of the issue. It was, simply, a truncated and poor execution of the source material's narrative. But whatever really, it's brought in new fans and given the manga exposure, a silver lining.
It was scheduled for 2 seasons from the start, is most likely the answer. |
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Kamagor
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It's sad to see how poorly handled it was. I was hoping for good stuff, just to then get one of the worst animated shows I've seen in awhile. Lets hope this is the last season of it, so that maybe down the road someone can give it another try and actually do it some justice. And perhaps it won't take another 15 years for that.
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NateSelwyn25
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There is no excusing the second season of Berserk other than pride on the part of the animation company. They couldn't admit they failed with the first season. Were they totally unaware of the Sailor Moon Crystal backlash? Backlash so strong it forced Toei to fire the animation director, a few team members, and I think the entire project leader? Look, for the most part, manga artwork should NOT be adapted to screen, because what works on paper doesn't always work in animation. A proper adaption of the story is ultimately more important than copying the manga creator's artstyle.
Why didn't the studio radically change what they were doing when they saw how awful most of the first season looked? Answer: Couldn't admit they fucked it up. |
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