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I was talking about Human Lost, they used an old japanese novel and made several changes. The worst of all is that it was made by japanese people, but highly influenced by Netflix to the point that the story didn't look like an anime-type at all. Similar with Death Note Live Action, but less worst of course.

I don't know what's your point with Hollywood films being called Hollywood films everywhere, since they are made for that global reason. It will be different if movies from Bollywood are being called Hollywood films.
Anime is different from Donghua from China, Cartoons from USA or Webtoons from South Korea, just like manga is different from webcomics, comics, etc. What's the difference with anime? It's made by and for japaneses, with their own cultural elements and way of thinking, extremely different to any other foreigner format. There's no point on calling something "anime" when it's not made for japaneses and was created with a foreigner giving orders to japanese people. They call it like that because it will attract more audience, but their original animations ARE NOT animes AT ALL. Same with some Latin American animation being called "animes" just because it's animation, it's like saying SpongeBob is an anime.

That's a good example of making anime without killing it's essence and culture, leaving the japaneses doing what they know, like they know, just contributing with money.

You can blame Tow Ubukata for that one. I think you need a source for this being "heavily influenced by Netflix" as it was a movie first before Netflix streamed it.

Hollywood isn't necessarily made for a global audience.

Thinking that anime in Japan today still maintains that strict 100% "by and for Japanese" mentality is quite backward thinking. If you think all Japanese anime has strict cultural influence from their own country, you're mistaken. The outside has heavily influenced eeeeeeverything. And if you want to be technical, if it's animated by a predominantly Japanese staff, that's still more or less an anime.

Here's an argument: Sturgil Simpson's music video to promote his album was a 100% Japanese "here's some money, do whatever you want with it thematically". Is that not an anime?

The French music video by Mylene Farmer called Peut-Etre Toi was animated by Production IG. Is that not an anime?

Castlevania and Seis manos were animated in a style that mimicked Japanese animation style. Sure, you can argue that Castlevania is an "anime" because it is based off of a Japanese game, but it still looks and feels like it's an anime.

You are aware that anime is the generic term that refers to all animated material in Japan, right?

You are aware that Japanese anime accounts for 60% of the world's animated television shows, right? I mean, heaven forbid that they have a little extra budget to play around with thanks to a foreign investor like Netflix or something.

The line of what is and isn't anime is getting blurred.

Avatar looks like Japanese anime when it's American-made. Panty and Stocking looks American-made when it's Japanese, go figure.

Not a single japanese would even think about using a song from J Balvin like theme song of a movie, they have this thing "benevolent racism" with everything not japanese. Even if it's known that type of music had won influence in Japan over the years, it wouldn't happen without major forces over them.

It is, that's why all the movies (idk if any has been released in USA only, but I highly doubt) produced there are almost in every cinema around the world, except maybe like you said, countries like China, Rusia, Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea. To keep a Hollywood production local it would be a senseless loss of money.

Of course I know Japan is a country that loves to appropriate cultures, traditions, etc, Christmas it's just an example when you realize Japan has very few christians almost all foreigners. Talking about anime production, is well known that animation studios love to use asian foreigners like cheap labor, but things like story or cultural contributions are still 100% japanese, that's my point.

I already answered that with Tate no Yuusha's example, it's just the same.

That's the same, the animation studio is just making the video part, not the music. They were hired for something specific, so they are still producing anime. It would be different if they were producing a musical video for japanese people in french. Still, music is a special case because it doesn't interfere that much with an anime if the lyrics are not in japanese, talking about songs like Naruto's first ending, lyrics in english with a japanese singer that is actually pretty good.

I'm not saying foreigner investment for japanese media is wrong, but companies like Netflix take advantage of that lack of budget to do whatever they want, again Human Lost theme song example. If all the companies support the anime like something japanese, we won't see disasters like Death Note Live Action anymore. Again, Crunchyroll example, even Netflix's Devilman Crybaby. Invest, but respect the anime essence.

The art doesn't matter that much, the essence of an anime is the important matter, everything that differentiates japanese way of thinking with the rest of the world.

Um... what? You do realize that quite a few English songs have been used in their movies and stuff over the years, right? Hell, I was surprised when a Hoobastank song was used in a movie over a decade ago. East of Eden or whatever anime that was used an Oasis song. Again, that wasn't American influence. Throwback: Tomino wanted Niel Sedaka to do songs for Zeta Gundam back in the day. America wasn't even aware of Gundam really so please, how is that overreach?

Hollywood has to PANDER to Chine and censor itself if it wants to be that truly global audience. Hell, South Park just did an entire freaking episode making fun of that fact.

Um... what?

But yet it uses 100% English music, much like the problem you have above.

But it's not an anime. It was released in France. But it's still an "anime" per se because it was 100% Japanese animated. But please clarify what you mean about it not interfering.

I don't see any proof that it was all Netflix's fault. Japan is more than capable of picking and choosing who they want in things without influence.

You are aware that there are quite a few Japanese that feel they're becoming too Westernized, right? The fact that you think the essence of anime is fading is hilarious just because of how Netflix labels something. The anime category is much more visible versus the general animation section, honestly.

Du you know Studio Orange? Land of the Lusterous and Beastars?
That's the only good CG Anime!

TheBeron wrote:

Du you know Studio Orange? Land of the Lusterous and Beastars? That's the only good CG Anime!

I wouldn't call either of those good CG. They might be the best Japan has to offer, but that doesn't make them good. Beastars is especially uncanny given its subject matter. The hollow, creepy looking CG animation only enhances that uneasiness.

And that's perfectly fine by me, because I much prefer traditional animation. Let Netflix have all the experimental CG and bad shows. The rest of the industry can focus on beautiful hand drawn animation.

If it's not made for japaneses, following its culture, don't call cartoons "animes".

Oh yes because every 2D show automatically looks “fantastic”. I’ve seen many hand drawn shows that look like utter shit & Beastars or Lustrous looking far superior to it for having actual work put into it.

Scion Drake wrote:

Oh yes because every 2D show automatically looks “fantastic”. I’ve seen many hand drawn shows that look like utter shit & Beastars or Lustrous looking far superior to it for having actual work put into it.

You sound insanely bitter right now, guy. Some people just don't like wonky CG anime. Going to something like Beastars after something like Kimetsu no Yaiba ended was like, yeah, wow. No thanks. This stuff doesn't look any better. But I guess Netflix people eat it up given Netflix makes so much of this kind of stuff. Or maybe Netflix makes these companies do CG adaptions because western audiences prefer CG animation so it's part of the deal to get funding.

Or maybe Netflix makes these companies do CG adaptions because western audiences prefer CG animation so it's part of the deal to get funding.