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redcar
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Well Funimation, I guess you know what you're doing. As long as you don't set yourself up for judicial ruin by trying to satisfy the implacable masses...I would be sad if you went away
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PetrifiedJello
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Actually, I don't believe there was an issue with the first statement. Sure, it wasn't direct, but any anime fan should have had the common sense to realize, given all the previously released series on DVD, this had to do with the law. *reviews the 42+ pages. I sit corrected. Nonetheless, I still believe the scene will be edited on DVD. That PROTECT act is just too damn vague for any company to take a chance. After all, if it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's obviously a goose wearing panties or having lotion rubbed on it. Thank goodness politicians are passing these laws for our safety. I sure wouldn't want a cartoon character coming after my children. |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
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Depending on laws of different states and countries, the uncensored version may not be legal for either open-shelf purchase (where minors have access) or online purchase (where the age of buyer cannot be certain). Whatever the reason was, the method worked and nobody complained. |
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Mads0
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If this wasn't planned all along, I've only got one thing to say: Thumbs up to you FUNimation.
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ArthurFrDent
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*pulls out a straight razor called occam*
As a reality check, people. It costs MONEY to edit stuff, which means less profit... especially on something you are streaming for free. Therefore, you can bet they are doing this because they found some scenes where they figured they would get in trouble. EVEN IF those scenes were later excused, they would have to pay the money to the lawyers first. It sounds as if there is a subtlety in how DVD are viewed vs. Streaming in terms of the loli issue, and it may be that on DVD they can satisfy the ratings by putting a 17+ rating, where they can't certify on their streaming site the age requirement. So. They are having to spend extra money anyway, they are just deciding where best to spend it. IFF that also brings in sales later? How is that bad? Bearing in mind that this may well be one of those titles that funimation is sorry they bought as a niche title, when they have to spend extra money on it... |
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ikillchicken
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Yes, if you look at my whole post, the 'it' is clearly in in reference to the DVD release. Hence what I am saying is this throws any justification for their initial choice to censor the DVD out the window. |
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vashfanatic
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I think the thing to remember amidst the rage over censorship is that none of us should really want Funimation - or any studio - to get embroiled in a massive lawsuit over releasing an anime or manga. First of all, most are hard-pressed financially and couldn't afford such a case. Second, it would generate bad press for anime/manga fans, deepening the misconception that our chosen fandom is full of nothing but creeps (which you know is how the media will spin it). As much as I too prefer that things be left as close to the original as possible and would be willing to guess this show isn't true porn by any standard, I understand why Funimation might feel nervous about it. Hopefully the show will be deemed defensible and they'll find ways of safely marketing it in its unedited form. Making it only available for purchase online seems like a good start.
Not if they're releasing the version from Japan that was already edited. |
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jsyxx
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It worked in Taiwan. If this whole debacle hasn't taught you anything, it's that the US consumer hates buying things that are "censored." I'm certain this strategy would completley flop, because you would have to have a consumer who is willing to spend a lot of money on something they don't want to get something they do want that may seem to be at a lesser value (one uncut DVD shipped to you for buying a boxset and then going to the extra effort of mailing in the coupon or whatever0. Things that fly in Japan or other countries don't necessarily fly here. And you're second argument is ancient as the 1980's. You can't buy an R-rated film in most retail stores without showing your driver's license. You have to be 18 in most states to use a credit card. And if Amazon.com can't legally sell age restricted content, then why have they sold millions of R-rated, unrated, etc. films with no legal problems? If the local law doesn't allow things marked mature to be sold in the open, they get the censored version while others don't. Not complicated. And this show obviously makes it past that goofy obscenity paranoia or their lawyers wouldn't have given them the thumbs up to do an unedited DVD release. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
 Posts: 5344 Location: Philly |
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They weren't, though. They made additional edits. |
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vashfanatic
Posts: 3492 Location: Back stateside |
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Thanks for the clarification. The first two episodes are online right now, has anyone made a comparison? What's been cut, how awkward are the edits, etc. |
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Apollo-kun
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Funimation is always damn good to their fans, and this just goes to show that they take the opinion of said fans very seriously. While it was understandable to be cautious with the content in "Dance in the Vampire Bund" (which I'm a huge fan of), it's good to see Funi having more balls than many companies out there. |
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Greed1914
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It's not the first time that Funimation has reconsidered when people complained. They had a few series that they received from the Sojitz/ADV fallout that for whatever reason they thought it would be a good idea to just jump into the half-season sets when the first or second volumes of a season had already been released. Needless to say, people complained and rightfully so. They ended up doing a limited release of singles for those shows since the amount of uproar let them know it was a blunder to expect people to buy a half-season when they only had one or two volumes left. With a market as dependent on the desires of fans as anime is, it pays to at least listen. |
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Stmurda23
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if they want to profit off of this they will release it uncut unedited and uncensored (all meaning the same thing i know)
point is the majority of hardcore anime fans will buy if uncut for the full experience the author intended. if Funimation wishes to profit they will release it uncut. |
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keikanki
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Worth noting though, is the original announcement made no mention of any legal considerations. Their reasoning was the edited scenes were "inappropriate for U.S. viewing" which is a whole different beast to take on. (This coming from the company with the established history of published edited DBZ, YYH and Sonic X DVDs just because they felt like it?) If that was genuinely the case from the beginning they should have said so. The thrust of the fan reaction would have been completely different. |
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BlackJaded
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Yeah I'm expecting the same thing but turn into an hologram and AI's in the future. Now that's the one thing I'm worried about right now. |
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