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bigivel wrote:

Though it is, it is totally aimed at fans of Slam Dunk(The author is a great fan and that is the reason why he decided to do a manga about basket!).

So, because creator is a fan of Slam Dunk it means that Kuroko targets the same audience?

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How is it just semantics when we using 2 different verbs that means 2 different things?

Okay, you're not arguing semantics (still, for some reason you're fixated on words which have been used during discussion). But can you back up any of your claims with statistical evidence? It would be nice to see some data on who actually buys stuff like Kuroko's Basketball.

Target Audience doesn't have nothing to do with who buy a series! How showing who buys the series will proof my point, when my point is that target audience doesn't mean that?

Do you see what a ridiculous thing you're asking me? "Show me that target audience isn't the same as the series appeal, by showing data that indicates who the series appeal to"

bigivel wrote:

Also somebody not wanting to watch a show because it is shoujo is the same as someone not wanting to watch another show because is sport. They Simply don't like, for whichever reason, the category.

I think it's a shitty reason. I mean, you can get some action packed shoujo and all. For me, that's more like saying you don't want to play a game because it has the ESRB tag "For Everyone".

Even worse when those people who doesn't watch shoujo watch shonen which focuses largely on romance... Ugh.

Moroboshi-san wrote:

Well, if someone puts homos in my pantsu-and-boobs-show I quite deliberately won't buy it.

For the number of girls on girls action in those show, there must be not quite a lot you buy.

Unlike the adult male otaku audience which is stagnating, the female otaku audience, and in particular fujoshi is growing rapidly. So it's not surprising that companies will target this growing market.

Really? Are the male otaku not buying as much stuff as before or is it not getting enough fresh new blood in the fandom?

ScruffyKiwi wrote:

Unlike the adult male otaku audience which is stagnating, the female otaku audience, and in particular fujoshi is growing rapidly. So it's not surprising that companies will target this growing market.

Really? Are the male otaku not buying as much stuff as before or is it not getting enough fresh new blood in the fandom?

darkchibi07 wrote:

Really? Are the male otaku not buying as much stuff as before or is it not getting enough fresh new blood in the fandom?

No of course not, but I think Scruffy is operating under the misconception sports series are only watched by women which is obviously not the case. That's been a trend for decades ever since Slam Dunk in Prince of Tennis which were shounen series but extremely popular with women. There's literally no difference between Kuroko and Slam Dunk as it's been mentioned.

Fujoshi have been around forever but they're pretty new in Western audiences. Most shows with the heavy fujoshi audience were never released in America until around Hetalia. Now thanks to streaming sites when stuff like Kuroko or Omatsusan pop up it's more noticeable compared to the 90s and 00s where Rintama Nantaro, Prince of Tennis, and a bunch of other anime were unheard of by American audiences. It might also be why people mistakenly think the series are aimed at women exclusively.

The point is, no one gets the right to say "that audience isn't the target audience" for the reason that the target audience aren't always the ones buying it. The target audience will always be the target audience, but if another audience happens to find something they like from it then great. If that audience happens to be more prominent across the fanbase than the target audience then great. It doesn't mean that they then become the target audience.

You still can't say demographics is already outdated, when there are just certain genres men and women most won't touch with a ten foot pole. Barring Love Live and I think K-ON, has there been any "moe" series that became a hit with the fujoshi? Even better, a straight up non reverse harem series that is also a VN adaptation that got fujoshis railing over it.

It's pretty clear looking at sales over the last few years that the female okaku and fujoshi has been growing while the male audience has been static. The recent smash hit Osomatsu-san has been largely driven by female otaku. Like I mentioned before the best way to follow this is to look at the DVD to BluRay sales split on a show. Shows with a larger female fandom will have a higher percentage of DVD's in total sales.