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EP. REVIEW: A Sister's All You Need


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myskaros



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:43 pm Reply with quote
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and I was disgusted and weary enough with Haganai by the end of the first season that I didn't care to watch the sequel.

Which is a real shame, because I think the sequel of Haganai is actually pretty great. The worry was that Haganai was just a dumb harem series, where it at times rested a bit too much on mean jokes, and won't dare actually try to move the story forward, where Yozora especially is not properly punished for her actions.

This is a good response! If the boat for Haganai hadn't long since sailed and crashed on a glacier, I would have been happy to give it a watch and relay my impressions back to you. At this point, though, I just really have no inclination to watch it Sad

The only response I can give is "the ends do not justify the means." I'm not easily turned off, so I can only conclude that the Haganai anime really did this to itself (as far as enticing me to watch more of it). Even with this show, Imouto Sae Ireba Ii, if the opening fake-out on episode 1 grossed out someone enough to drop the show right then and there, I would not fault them at all. I think it's good that they course-corrected and NEXT, by your account, resolved a lot of issues from the first season, but, either way, my good will was completely drained by the end of that first season, so that's that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:39 pm Reply with quote
Haruto's comments are something I've been saying on this site for years. Whenever a new isekai title is announced you always get comments going "Arg, another isekai title?! They only wrote it because they're lazy and cashing in on a trend. Why can't they be original?" And my retort is always "Did you not consider that the author just likes isekai stories and wanted to write one?"

Keep writing what you love, Haruto.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:23 pm Reply with quote
About Ep. 6: That illustrator should be PUNISHED in some fashion. I heartily disapprove of that bit, especially with it being consequence free for Setsuna, but I liked the everything else about the episode. This sucks! It would have made it better for me if Chihiro had snapped a photo with his phone of his assaulter, promising some later comeuppance. At this point, these two are complete strangers as far as I know. The whole bit makes me angry!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:26 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, the Setsuna/Chihiro scene made me wince and felt both awkwardly-placed and uncharacteristically awkwardly-executed. Otherwise I liked the episode quite a bit, especially the final few minutes.

As to Itsuki and Nayu's revelation-dropping, Nayu's had already been substantially hinted at (I don't recall if it was ever said, but bullying was my first thought when I saw some of her flashback behavior), but Itsuki's is a bombshell. We knew from the first episode that Chihiro was a stepsibling, but not any of the particulars. That his mother died when he was in middle school, and that he now insists on not living with his family, strongly suggests that his father remarried and he either doesn't get along with his father because of it or doesn't get along with his stepmother, perhaps both. That makes it interesting that he gets along so well with Chihiro, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:02 pm Reply with quote
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trying to get laughs out of the (albeit accidental) assault of a character in the street isn't a good look at all.


Nothing accidental about it. He was very intentional in his action and was attempting to further strip Chihiro when he was fought back and she was able to run. Mad
Saying his interest is "non-sexual" is also completely false. His intent was not in committing a sexual act but it was sexual in every other sense. He's an ecchi artist searching for "objects" that pique his sexual interest and will titillate his works fans. It may not have been done for immediate sexual activity but was everything about sexual gratification.

The fact that I know this will not be dealt with well is going to haunt me for the rest of the show.
One character traumatized by his mother's death, another by relentless bullying... but it's almost certain that Chihiro will be "offended" and more interested in keeping the secret than show the hurt the assault should have caused. One almost as bad and more constant than the other's "past" traumas.
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Catseyetiger



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:50 pm Reply with quote
The out of place red label declaring ” little sister” is just so off putting. The show would have been better served to leave it out!
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I actually checked to see if Cat & Chocolate was available in English and sadly, it appears it is not.


There are two versions of Cat & Chocolate that are both in English & Japanese: the original haunted house one and the business one. You can easily find them on Amazon.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:56 pm Reply with quote
The only thing I didn't get was why Chihiro didn't call the police. As far as she knows, that's just a random sexual harasser out on the street. The only justification I can think of is she doesn't want to make a scene.

Edit: Reading other comments, it definitely would've made sense to at least take a photo and threaten them back. She really took a risk there.

Also, just want to point out that only one person has instantly noticed Chihiro's a girl, and it's the guy with the butt obsession.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:17 am Reply with quote
The assault by the illustrator was kind of uncharacteristically crass for this series, in practically feeding into the idea that it is like the first few minutes if episode 1. Sadly meta, where the rest of the episode was somewhat about being disappointed by an anime. It would be nice if some repercussion to the guy, who happens to be one of the few teenage characters.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:45 am Reply with quote
Morry wrote:

Also, just want to point out that only one person has instantly noticed Chihiro's a girl, and it's the guy with the butt obsession.


I think the accountant knows (always gives Chihiro a knowing long stare when they meet), she's just not saying anything.

And if/when the secret comes out I actually have a feeling that Itsuki will reveal that he knew all along but if Chihiro wants to live as his little brother then it doesn't count as being a "little sister." And really for all of his talk and fetishizing, I get the feeling he actually does know the difference between a fantasy and reality.

They say the only people who have a sister fetish are those that have never had a sister. Faced with the reality, maybe he would rather just keep himself fooled.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:24 pm Reply with quote
oh man todays episode of ASAYN almost killed me.

when they were making characters I almost died of laughter(metaphorically) seeing them rip off spoiler[Index's Mikoto, fate's Emiya's trace, Touma's imagine breaker and I think the last one was a reference to fate's mana transference via bodily fluids?]
Also I'm sure that doing that blood transference ritual that's in Darren Shan's novel series would be just as effective and not as invasive(in it they would use their fingernails to draw blood from the end of all ten of their fingers and then press the wounds against each other which facilitating an exchange of blood) but it wouldn't be sexy I suppose.
It was also hilarious how they were talking about using blatant ripoffs of other media but its all fine since its not an anime or light novel Laughing
But the part that almost literally killed me was when the slime monster grabbed them and the MC started the spoiler[unlimited blade works chant]only to stop half way and use a generic one. Yeah, that was a really bad time to be eating a sandwich.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:54 pm Reply with quote
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But the part that almost literally killed me was when the slime monster grabbed them and the MC started the spoiler[unlimited blade works chant]only to stop half way and use a generic one. Yeah, that was a really bad time to be eating a sandwich.

To be specific it was a Roper, which in D&D look like this:

Where they are usually subterranean creatures that mimic the appearance of stalagmites.

When the DM tells you everything looks safe with a smile on their face after a bad roll, things probably won't be safe.
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Calsolum



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:31 am Reply with quote
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When the DM tells you everything looks safe with a smile on their face after a bad roll, things probably won't be safe.


lmao I know they've never played D&D before but given how much Itsuki knows his friend I'd have thought he'd have picked up on something being wrong seeing as he was spot on about the whole quest being an (un)elaborate ruse.

also thats a horrifying creature all their talk of D&D makes me wanna play it...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:59 am Reply with quote
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also thats a horrifying creature all their talk of D&D makes me wanna play it...
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If your at least a little interested in it, but don't have anyone to play with, I could maybe recommend watching others play, there has been a growing trend of people recording sessions.
I especially recommend a show called Critical Role.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:14 am Reply with quote
Yeah, ropers are the all-time-classic dungeon crawl tentacle monster. They've been around since the earliest editions of Dungeons and Dragons (which means they predate tentacle porn) and have appeared in some version or another in just about every other fantasy RPG made since.

One quibble about the episode: I've always heard D&D and similar games referred to as Table Top RPGs, not Table Talk RPGs - though I guess the latter fits as well. TRPGs is also not an abbreviation I've commonly seen used in the States, so that must be a Japanese thing.

And my, that was an interesting development at the end, wasn't it? That's just a small part of the reason why I think this is the most underrated series of the season, if not the whole year. It's been consistently polling in the bottom quarter but it's put out enough good content to at least warrant being in the top half.
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