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Buried Treasure - Gundam 0080

penguintruth wrote:

Although it is true his core concepts are often lost to the tides of new and exciting story ideas (especially the Newtype concept - the evolution of man, which loses all focus and meaning down the line in the Universal Century era productions),... His characters are strong, even though some of this utilizations of them aren't.

But that's the thing. Nobody here is saying he has bad ideas, but that his execution is iffy. The themes he wants to present and the characters he comes up with are all (mostly) incredible, but as you say yourself, the way he utlizes these ideas in his stories makes them suffer.

Alfred's voice is like someone scraping the blackboard with fingernails or sharp metallic instruments. It is so horrible that for me it took away a large chunk of the enjoyability of the show.

abruli wrote:

Alfred's voice is like someone scraping the blackboard with fingernails or sharp metallic instruments. It is so horrible that for me it took away a large chunk of the enjoyability of the show.

Omigodthankyou.

No matter the language I chose, listening to Alfred made me want to throw things at my TV. I tried to enjoy 0080 in spite of him though. It was a struggle, let me tell you, but I managed. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I'd want to have a complete 180º done to the kid's personality. Cold, detached pre-teen? No thanks. Been there, done that, quite sick of it. Just a little less whine is all I wanted.

This anime is from a time period (early 90's) right before the start of the millenium crapfest of anime that has been so superficial it makes my head spin

I've never felt compelled by a Gundam series. I really wanted to, but I could never find myself enjoying one for more than a few minutes at a time. I tried Zeta, I tried original, and god help me, I even tried Gundam Wing.

Yeah, I noticed it's the new anime-snob trend to trash Tomino. I like 0080, but writing off Zeta Gundam or any of Tomino's other great works is pure lunacy.

There was a fair amount of hype generated around Space Runaway Ideon as it was being fansubbed. So, I sit down to watch it, expecting to be blown away by the greatest influence of Evangelion. The only thing I got were a bunch of shallow characters that went through the same episode structure continuously with no variation. There was also some issues with simple, solid direction.

Are you sure you weren't watching Evangelion instead?

This is what annoys me about today's anime snobs, they crucify people like Tomino for not being perfect, while their own shows that were offspringed from it couldn't be more flawed.

I think it has to do with the fact that whatever is old and has a legendary reputation must be trashed for some reason.

Maybe you just don't like Tomino becuase his style of anime isn't to your liking?

Huh? Al isn't cold or detatched. In fact, he's very warm and upbeat, to a fault.

penguintruth wrote:

Huh? Al isn't cold or detatched. In fact, he's very warm and upbeat, to a fault.

penguintruth, that's not what I meant at all.

I didn't enjoy listening to Al a good portion of the time. However, I still enjoyed parts of the series despite this. Yet, in my previous post, I wanted to point out that just because I didn't enjoy Al's occasional whiny-ness (or him just being a kid), I didn't want some readers to jump to the conclusion that I would want Al to have his personality reversed (i.e. 180º) to the cold, detached pre-teen we see a lot of in action, robot shows.

I hope this makes my earlier point a little clearer. I'm not sure what word I misused or what I mis-typed to lead you to believe it was the opposite. It's the INTERNETS, it happens. *shrug*

But overall I like Tomino's stuff(I might be one of the only BRAIN POWERD fans in the world)--he's one of the few anime directors(along with Hideaki Anno and Akiyuki Shinbo) whose works I actively seek out.