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Dorian
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:31 am
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Basho, Issa and Buson raise their cups. “Look,” they say, “the children are busy writing poetry in the summer! Well done ANN.”
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LeftHandedBassist
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:35 am
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Two days since I submitted mine and still isn't up? Not cool.
Specially since most of the ones that are up already are really not deserving of the free blu-ray.
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darkhappy1
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:41 pm
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@LeftHandedBassist
I would think the delay is because of the large influx of haikus, since this is an easily-entered contest for an expensive product of a highly-regarded OVA.
I can't wait to see which 25 haikus were ranked highest... and then the winning haiku. (By the way, Tuesday is the 23rd, not the 24th.)
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liquidfreedom88
Joined: 15 Aug 2011
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:04 pm
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i think its because how people free to enter many times so that the entries probably lining up. i dont think i will win the blu ray, im just taking the fun of making words out of my fav childhood anime
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ANN_Bamboo
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:26 am
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Most of the entries should be up by now. We have a lot of entries... a large chunk of them are from the same 4 users, actually. So that's slowing down the process a little.
Thanks for being patient.
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ANN_Bamboo
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:31 am
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LeftHandedBassist wrote: | Specially since most of the ones that are up already are really not deserving of the free blu-ray. |
The beauty of the ranking system is that the ones that "are really not deserving of the free blu-ray"... likely aren't going to get it. The way the voting is set up, even if you're one of the first entries to be posted, if it's not good, it's not good. You'd be surprised by how harshly and consistently users are ranking the entries.
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liquidfreedom88
Joined: 15 Aug 2011
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:43 am
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I've got a question,
does the name displayed below the haikus represent the figure that writing the haikus along with the feeling of situation he/she writes?
i mean, does it feel out of place if in the haikus i wrote represent Kenshin's situation but i write my name on the displayed name?
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LeftHandedBassist
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:35 am
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SakechanBD wrote: | We have a lot of entries... a large chunk of them are from the same 4 users, actually. |
Now, that's stupid. For things like this I think there should have been a limit, something between 5 or 10 so people wouldn't complain so much. If they couldn't come up with a good haiku within that limit... well, too bad.
SakechanBD wrote: | You'd be surprised by how harshly and consistently users are ranking the entries. |
Ah, this give me a glimmer of hope. Judging by the amount of nonsense entries, I thought the general taste would be the same. Good thing I was wrong this time.
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vanfanel
Joined: 26 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:02 am
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季語のない 俳句は俳句 と呼べない
kigo no nai haiku wa haiku to yobenai
Haiku poems that
don't have a seasonal word
are not called "haiku"
(Well, in Japan at least, they're not. As another poster mentioned, they're called "senryuu")
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Dorian
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:35 am
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vanfanel wrote: | 季語のない 俳句は俳句 と呼べない
kigo no nai haiku wa haiku to yobenai
Haiku poems that
don't have a seasonal word
are not called "haiku"
(Well, in Japan at least, they're not. As another poster mentioned, they're called "senryuu") |
Let’s not get too crazy with this little game. The Japanese have an ancient rich culture. They have been studying and creating haiku for centuries. They have a formalized list of season code words or kigo, many of which would not be obvious to us gaijin. The ANN staff is hosting a game wherein we can write amusing little poems. Let's play it in the spirit offered.
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ANN_Bamboo
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:39 pm
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liquidfreedom88 wrote: | I've got a question,
does the name displayed below the haikus represent the figure that writing the haikus along with the feeling of situation he/she writes?
i mean, does it feel out of place if in the haikus i wrote represent Kenshin's situation but i write my name on the displayed name? |
....? I'm not entirely sure I understand your question. The name displayed below the haiku is simply the author of each haiku...
OH I think I see what you're referring to. No, most people are using their own pseudonyms/handles/names.
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ANN_Bamboo
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:41 pm
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LeftHandedBassist wrote: |
SakechanBD wrote: | You'd be surprised by how harshly and consistently users are ranking the entries. |
Ah, this give me a glimmer of hope. Judging by the amount of nonsense entries, I thought the general taste would be the same. Good thing I was wrong this time. |
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. The haiku that were posted in the first batch (1-50) have retained the same average ranking throughout the week. I have this mathematically worked out so that the good haiku rise to the top, regardless of when they're posted.
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gwern
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:54 pm
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SakechanBD wrote: |
The beauty of the ranking system is that the ones that "are really not deserving of the free blu-ray"... likely aren't going to get it. The way the voting is set up, even if you're one of the first entries to be posted, if it's not good, it's not good. You'd be surprised by how harshly and consistently users are ranking the entries. |
I don't speak for anyone but myself, but I'd be fascinated to hear more about the statistics. I ranked all 300 fairly harshly since I'm pretty familiar with haikus although I prefer classical wakas, and I am a little surprised to hear that. (I remember reading a long statistics article on how to calculate averages properly while accounting for time; are you using those methods?)
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Sunday Silence
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:19 pm
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SakechanBD wrote: | Most of the entries should be up by now. We have a lot of entries... a large chunk of them are from the same 4 users, actually. So that's slowing down the process a little. |
Even thought I'm not participating, thats kinda stupid. How do you guys know that the intentional "stuffing the ballot box" is skewing giving everyone a favorable chance to win? I could see if each entrant was limited to 5 haiku's total restricted in some way (e-mail or IP addy), but when you have 4 people throwing in tons of entries and your admittance that these 4 folks are "messing up the process" is kinda off-putting to say the least.
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Animerican14
Joined: 19 Aug 2006
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Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:21 am
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Sunday Silence wrote: |
SakechanBD wrote: | Most of the entries should be up by now. We have a lot of entries... a large chunk of them are from the same 4 users, actually. So that's slowing down the process a little. |
Even thought I'm not participating, thats kinda stupid. How do you guys know that the intentional "stuffing the ballot box" is skewing giving everyone a favorable chance to win? I could see if each entrant was limited to 5 haiku's total restricted in some way (e-mail or IP addy), but when you have 4 people throwing in tons of entries and your admittance that these 4 folks are "messing up the process" is kinda off-putting to say the least. |
To add to that, among the last 100 entries posted, I noticed at least one literal repeat-- two of the same haiku by the same user. This was in entry batch 201-250, twice:
Quote: | Himura Kenshin
Yukishiro Tomoe
The sheath and the sword
-- whiteplums |
While I'm assuming that one might've been sent in at least twice because of the apparent delay in posting entries-- hell, I was thinking of doing that because I thought one of mine didn't get sent in-- I'm still a bit disappointed that this wasn't taken narrowed down to one. I can't pick out any more specific haiku, but I think its certainly possible that there are a few other repeats scattered around. I'm just wondering, then: how are the votes going to be tallied for these same-author-same-haiku entries, in preparation for the top 25?
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