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JacobC
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Ah, his master. Okay. That's what done did it, not the pureblood part. The pureblood part will probably just give him badass powers, right? Right? Oh, come on, Zero has to get some superpowers. Otherwise, all he can do is angst. 
But...what about Maria Kurenai? If that's truly the case, he'd have to get a hold of her too. Not to mention that spoiler[drinking Ichiru dry is going to give him a mindrape of Shinji Ikari proportions. Poor thing.] |
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rinmackie
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Maria Kuranai was merely a vessel. She is a weak vampire and guess Shizuka had planned on giving Maria her blood to strengthen her. But I don't see how that can happen now since Kaname and Ichiru got it first and now Shizuka's dead.
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JacobC
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 Oh, I thought she said in the anime that Shizuka already gave her her blood because her body was so weak, and in return, Shizuka got to use her body.
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rinmackie
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Hmm, I can't really remember the exact conversation with Maria but if Shizuka had already given her blood to her, wouldn't she be stronger? She still seemed kinda fragile to me. Also, the translation (or at least the one I saw) seemed a little off or maybe I misunderstood. At one point, Maria mentioned that Shizuka had a lover who was previously a vampire. It seemed odd to me because Shizuka had a lover who was previously a human but she turned into a vampire. She was also was betrothed to another pureblood vampire as part of an arranged marriage.
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JacobC
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Weeeeell, just saw episode 5. Kaname has now risen from "far too shifty" status to "uber-douche."
On the plus side, I was tired of Yuuki being all waffly and inactive. Seriously, I so loved her character, and she's just gone and screwed it all up in the last three or four episodes. But MAN, has she made a comeback in this one! Kaname tries to change the subject on her and work his chesticular charms on her frail feminine hormones and she's all like: "I SLAP yo' hand away, biatch! Stop lying and give me the truth, and for crying out loud, stop saying 'I love you,' this is more important!" Yeah, I love Yuuki again now. But I am under the horrible impression that it won't last long as she seems to be sacrificing her will to find out the truth, as Kaname tells her the only way to unlock her past is to become his lover. Poor Zero, one more notch on the mindscrew stick when the truth comes out, I'd imagine. I wonder how he'll handle it? So, it was a terrible cliffhanger, but I was happy that the show was going somewhere. Quality-wise it had really been heading south, and all the "I'm going to explain my innermost feelings in detail" thing was horribly obnoxious. (When Kaname says they'll be "lovers," does he mean in the non-vampiric, extremely human sense as well? Cause if he bangs his own sister, his uber-douche status is going into new territories.) |
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BunnyCupCakes
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Lol
Episode 5 just gave out more evidence that the anime is totally anti-Kaname 
All the anger and rebellion from Yuuki made Kaname seem more like the bad guy :[ I sure didn't see that coming ( it wasn't like that in the manga ) But it was funny to watch. Some manga fans got mad lol |
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qwertybob900
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I love this I'm a yuuki and zero fan so 
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rinmackie
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I dunno. Kaname seems to be about the same as he is in the manga. Course, I'm a YuukixZero fan, myself. While I wouldn't say Kaname is EVIL with a capital E, I don't think he's that great of a person. He comes across as arrogant and manipulative to me. Yeah, Zero has his faults but he seems more decent than Kaname.
That being said, I'm not the sort who goes around posting things like, "Kaname must die!" I'm glad this thread has remained civil. If I have one complaint about VK, it's that some of the fangirling goes WAAAY overboard. |
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JacobC
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Eh. This applies to any angsty shonen or shoujo series, really. Doesn't make a big difference. I had a peek at the manga while I was at B&N the other day, and I do mean a peek, not much. The art appears more intricate from cover designs, but to be honest, I wasn't that impressed with the character art in the manga itself. I thought the facial expressions were undeveloped, and the characters themselves were a bit off-model (animation only term? oh well) with too much frequency. It kind of explains the anime's slight problem with static poses and unrealistic movement. You could blame that partly on the budget, but in many ways, a lot of these characters are stiff. The animation (and character designs) are not this show's selling point. But I like the story and the refreshing heroine. I also prefer the anime's rendition of the scene where Zero first bites Yuuki, as that chapter is the one I read in the manga. It was set up better, it felt to me. In the manga it's very sudden and the blocking is raw, the facial expressions, again, kind of wooden. Don't know, I was just surprised at how underwhelming the manga appeared BUT I acknowledge that a lot of manga start out rough and take several chapters to find their comfort zone, right? Can't wait for episode six. I'm on pins and needles as to how Zero and Yuuki are going to respond to Kaname's "proposal." |
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qwertybob900
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Yes i know i cann't wait and that part was the best. |
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marie-antoinette
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I think the character designs are beautiful (though I'll agree that characters are a bit static sometimes). I managed to get a friend to watch the show just because she thought it was so beautifully drawn (though the first season did have a dip at the end when things weren't quite as well done, but that's not uncommon). |
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JacobC
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Oh, they're very pretty. But the animation itself is poor, and what I really faulted the character designs for was indistinctiveness. They're all pretty, but they all look a little too similar to each other. There are certain scenes where I mistook Maria for Ruka and about a million where I confused Aidou for Ichijou. I think I mistook Yuuki for someone else once, too, which is a real problem! Either way, if the only thing that separates characters is hair and eye color, and all their body types and ESPECIALLY facial shapes are identical, that's what you call "poor character design." Facial shapes, even small tweaks in the length of someone's face, make a huge difference in whether you can recognize them or confuse them for someone else in anime. Actually, all the men's eye shapes are the same, what's up with that? Eh. I do think all the vampire dudes are pretty, though.
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JacobC
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Watched episode 6. Albeit with poor subs again. Nobody competent is subbing this right now, but fortunately VK uses a simple vocabulary and its characters speak slowly, so I can fill in the gaps...and poor grammar!
Can't say too much more other than that Kaname is an uber-douche filled with deceit and enormous self-puffery and series-wise, I don't think there's any possibility of him and Yuuki ending up together. It clearly doesn't fit. It's going to be an enormous challenge for the writers to flip the triangle back in Kaname's favor, and the only way they could do it at this point is to reveal the truth to Yuuki...but that truth, as Kaname points out, will probably make her hate him. So...yeah, I think Kaname has lost before he even got his feet off the ground. Also...just as I had long feared...Shiki! Shiki! Nooooo... 
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marie-antoinette
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I had to admit that it is easy to get characters mixed up (though oddly enough, I don't think I ever had problems telling the difference between Ichiru and Zero
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Voices and full colour help too. And I feel for you about the subbing issue, I've been loyal to the group who hasn't gotten episode 3 out yet, so I'm a few episodes behind (though since I've read the manga, I know what's going to happen more or less). |
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rinmackie
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JesuOtaku, as far as the truth goes, you don't have to worry about Yuuki. Zero, on the other hand... well, let's just says he's NOT going to be happy about it.
Hope I'm not spoiling too much but it looks like it will be revealed in the next episode. |
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