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Manga Stream to end scanlation of Viz Titles

Mind you, I'm not defending the younger crowd. I'm just saying I can understand why they would lash out the way they would. I'm pretty sure they could actually sit and wait a couple of weeks behind the Japanese. Unfortunately, many of them don't want to.

they really don't have to wait couple week per ch because they will be still reading 1 ch every week if just don't worry about Japan.

By lashing out, they're basically saying, "it's not fair god damn it! You can't tell me what to do!"

For the teens and even college-aged students, that's the big mountain to climb over. Getting these people to care enough to feel like waiting, regardless of how long it is.

What mangastream WONT tell you, is that they actually make money off of scanlating the work (through advertizing). They're making a lot of money off of someone else's work. VIZ is 100% in the right for removing those titles. They also need to redraw certain portions of the artwork, making it look like garbage.

baadaku12345 wrote:

What mangastream WONT tell you, is that they actually make money off of scanlating the work (through advertizing). They're making a lot of money off of someone else's work. VIZ is 100% in the right for removing those titles. They also need to redraw certain portions of the artwork, making it look like garbage.

2 things wrong with this.

1 - they don't profit. How do you think you pay for a server that gets hammered by that many hits every Wednesday? Even this site has advertising. It's in the nature of the internet. Even if they did to a megaupload level they'd put the money back into the place.

2 - they didn't make it look like garbage.

Look enough is enough. The site has dropped the Viz titles, Viz has it's SJA. We need to move on and not get flustered by the people who are idiots and just crying about having to pay for manga.

1. You're telling me that 100% went to server cost? Be realistic. Even if it was, they're still receiving money for stealing other work.

baadaku12345 wrote:

1. You're telling me that 100% went to server cost? Be realistic. Even if it was, they're still receiving money for stealing other work.

I actually heard something about how some extra revenue went to paying the scanlators.

2- I've compared their scans of Naruto to Alpha, SJ Alpha's looks way better. It's not white and blotchy looking like mangastream's stuff. Here take a look at this forum post to see just how bad mangastream scans are.

While I can understand why there are people who hate Viz now for ending scanlations on mangastream (for the SJ titels, that is), you have to remind yourself that these people grew up with scanlations and free manga. Viz can't force these kind of people to stop reading illegal scans for free, and start paying for the scans.
I won't read SJA if it becomes available in my region (if it ever does) but the only thing I fear the most is digital-only titels. If they start to do those things, I may join the Viz hate bandwagon. Good thing I didn't read print SJ before it went digital, but I think a magazine and GN's are different.

MrXarnus wrote:

While I can understand why there are people who hate Viz now for ending scanlations on mangastream (for the SJ titels, that is), you have to remind yourself that these people grew up with scanlations and free manga. Viz can't force these kind of people to stop reading illegal scans for free, and start paying for the scans. I won't read SJA if it becomes available in my region (if it ever does) but the only thing I fear the most is digital-only titels. If they start to do those things, I may join the Viz hate bandwagon. Good thing I didn't read print SJ before it went digital, but I think a magazine and GN's are different.

If they're not ever going to pay for their entertainment, then why do they matter? Why should Viz let these people keep pirating when it's not going to "bring them more fans" (the most common excuse for scanlations when a legal alternative is available too). Viz certainly can't force anyone to buy anything, but they certainly have the right to stop illegal acts done with their licenses. Especially if the majority of the people they're pissing off wouldn't have given them a dime anyway. All those fans yelling "I've never bought from Viz and now I never will!" really don't mean a damn thing at the end of the day.

ZepysGirl wrote:

MrXarnus wrote: While I can understand why there are people who hate Viz now for ending scanlations on mangastream (for the SJ titels, that is), you have to remind yourself that these people grew up with scanlations and free manga. Viz can't force these kind of people to stop reading illegal scans for free, and start paying for the scans. I won't read SJA if it becomes available in my region (if it ever does) but the only thing I fear the most is digital-only titels. If they start to do those things, I may join the Viz hate bandwagon. Good thing I didn't read print SJ before it went digital, but I think a magazine and GN's are different. If they're not ever going to pay for their entertainment, then why do they matter? Why should Viz let these people keep pirating when it's not going to "bring them more fans" (the most common excuse for scanlations when a legal alternative is available too). Viz certainly can't force anyone to buy anything, but they certainly have the right to stop illegal acts done with their licenses. Especially if the majority of the people they're pissing off wouldn't have given them a dime anyway. All those fans yelling "I've never bought from Viz and now I never will!" really don't mean a damn thing at the end of the day.

You've got a good point, but these kind of people will always find a way to get free manga. For every scanlation site the pull of the web (or, in this case, delete a few titeles) much more are created. Viz will have to learn (and other publishers) that stopping scanlations completely is impossible. (I don't protect the Viz haters in any way, I don't read scanlations because I don't like reading on a electronic screen.) Look at France, there are a lot of fans who scanlate, but also buy but them if the product is released, because the official release is (from most publishers in France) way than the illegal. If Viz continous to improve the quality of there product's, they win over fans. (and no digital only releases, but there don't seem to be any
, and I hope it stays that way...)

If they can always find a way to get it free. They shouldn't complain about it since Viz has nothing to do with them. They won't give viz any money either way. Viz or other manga companies never said, they are going to shut down all scanlations.

What's the problem here? You read your free manga, viz makes their money. Are they salty because Viz makes money?