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Hospodar
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It’s not exactly “unpopular” outside of Japan. But to answer your question. There are many assumptions to why it isn’t as popular. First of all it neither does look nor does it have something Japanese in it. For example Naruto has “Ninjas” and Death Note has “Shinigami”. Both are Japanese themes which interest people outside of Japan. One Piece has “Pirates” and the Art looks more Cartoony. So on first glance People will choose something like Naruto for the “Japanese” feel. Second of all One Piece doesn’t have an explosive start. It is a very good series which gets better by arc but you have to watch 40 Episodes to reach the Arlong Park where you see for the first time a glimpse of what Oda can do. Death Note is rather short and hooks you after 2-3 Episodes. The first arc of Naruto is the best one of the whole Manga and the Chunin Exam is also rather interesting. Many people watch like the first 8 Episodes of OP, see a clown, think it’s childish and uninteresting or you average Shonen. Also one other reason is that OP is insanely long and that there is no end in sight. So most people don’t want to marathon something so big if they aren’t hooked in the first 5 Episodes.
No it isn’t important at all. The most popular Manga Naruto doesn’t even sell 1 Million copies per volume world wide (minus Japan) When something is unpopular in Japan but reaches popularity outside of Japan it will still get cancelled. |
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syrianmj
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one piece like twilight most fans r girls & stupid
bleach deserve this position cause the battel versus izen was aweful hope naruto reach 6.5 in the end of the year 
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why no guest post option?
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it's a shounen title yeah there's a lot of fan girls&fujoshi but not like twilight lol
what happened dude? did that dude flip you off or it's just your fanboyism Last edited by why no guest post option? on Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:42 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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dariushcc
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I have watched a lot more than 40 episodes but I didn't liked it that much, same as your saying I didn't find any thing Japanese in it It was not even anime like to me, and the art was kind of odd I thought it would be more fun If I watch some western animation even family guy or south park would be better. Actually there is not so many animes that can compete with wester animation. And it would be sad if some animes like naruto get canceled because of popularity in japan.
what about anime adaption itself? because naruto english dubbed version is aired in US and Europe?[/quote] |
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Hospodar
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You don’t have to worry about Naruto. Naruto is one of the most popular Manga and Anime in Japan. It is more than that. It’s a whole franchise with merchandise like games, figures and thousand other things. The anime will be continued to keep the franchise alive. Bleach for example has around the worst rankings of all WSJ Mangas. Here are the rankings for the last three weeks: 5/2-5/8 Gintama: 2.4% Bleach: 1.9% Sket: 2.3% Naruto: 4.2% AoEx: 2.5% Beelze: 2.6% Toriko: 6.1% OP: 8.0% 5/9-5/15 Gintama: 2.2% Bleach: 2.7% Sket: 2.0% Naruto: 3.7% AoEx: 3.5% Beelze: 3.1% Toriko: 6.5% OP: 9.4% 5/16-5/22 Gintama: 1.8% Bleach: 1.7% Sket: 2.4% Naruto: 4.1% AoEx: 2.9% Beelze: 3.5% Toriko: 6.8% OP: 9.3% But it has good DVD sales and a franchise. So the Anime will be kept alive for the sake of the franchise. This is also the reason why there are even long running anime. Because the franchise must be kept alive.
I’m not sure about that. The Anime Market is bigger than the Manga Market outside of Japan. But the thought process has 2 problems. First only popular Manga or Novels get even an Anime adaption (Well special Manga or Novels who are targeted at a special demographic also get Animes.). So you already have to have a certain popularity to get an Anime. Second of all. A Company from outside Japan will only license already popular Animes in Japan. Most Companies don’t like to license long running Anime anyway. So it already has to have a certain popularity in Japan and an already popular Manga outside of Japan to get a long running Anime outside of Japan. For 13 Episode or 26 Episode Animes there is no risk. They are already produced but there probably won’t be a second or third Season if the DVDs or Blue Rays aren’t selling in japan. But I once heard a rumor. I don’t know how true it is. I heard that Onegai Sensei (Please Teacher) got a spin off because the Anime was popular over seas. But like I said. I don’t know how true that is. |
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Megiddo
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Well, One Piece dubbed is aired in Korea, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Philippines, and various Arab countries... And there's probably more, but that's what is listed in the encyclopedia page. |
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syrianmj
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in france naruto sell 500.000 copies while op sells 100.000 about arab countries yes op is popular but trust me comparing to naruto it is nothing both adults and teens r so crazy about naruto |
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iloveoov
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manga market outside japan only 20-30% compare to japanese manga market.. from your example we can see that only 400k different between naruto and one piece while in japan they have like 20+ million different. and France is the biggest manga market after Japan if i'm not mistaken. |
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roroy
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MaxSouth
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i am not naruto fanboy (since i can be to this show as strict as it requires), but there is no information that the anime is the most hated, since, despite being horrible in art and pacing in most of episodes, it has some redeeming qualities such as outstanding music (mostly first series) and interesting dramatic story (when it drown not that bad and not slowed down to death by anime directors)...
as to bleach, whether it is in top three or not should not really concern the fans... their should rely on their own estimation of the story... for these who are not fans, but just watchers, it may mean something, though... |
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ArsenicSteel
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The Big 3 is a term developed to describe currently running popular manga/anime franchises outside of Japan. To my understanding the term was coined because there happened to be 3 ridiculously large franchises going on at one time.
Missing a volume and having less manga sales than others for this half does not remove Bleach from the Big 3. |
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MasterKingJC
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One Piece will still go on for at least 10 more years, so expect the sales numbers to increase more and more.
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syrianmj
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1-am talking about one folder sales not the series 2-no doubt about it op in dominating the manga market in japan but lets talk about op fans 80% girl 15% kids while naruto 50% teens 50 % adults so the quality matters too 4 example twilight trilogy sells more than al pacino & robert de niro movies together is that mean twilight is better no but all the fans r girls exactly like op 
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iloveoov
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are you actually serious? 1. where did you get this statistic? "op fans 80% girl 15% kids " and "50% teens 50 % adults " - fan-fic? 2. one piece already running for 13 years, even NARUTO after 10 years its started to declining while one piece getting better and better overtime, the old fans stick to it, gain new fans, some "kid" fans now already mature and having a family, and guess what, they still enjoying it, and that's definitely is not something that has a "cheap, not last long and ridiculously stupid popularity" like Twilight and Justin Bieber can achieve 10 years from now. seriously sometimes, a very good story also can have a godlike popularity like StarWars original trilogy, Batman movies by Nolan, Harry Potter novel(i guess), Pixar film's and etc. 3.One piece is a kid manga and aim at kids demographic, but shockingly its readers are from all demographic, kids, teens, adult, old people. not just teen girl. and i think, teen girl favorite always change from time to time, i mean its like they can't make up their mind.
NHK: 9/10ths of One Piece Manga Buyers are Adults animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-02-09/nhk/9/10ths-of-one-piece-manga-buyers-are-adults and some stupid may argue by saying, kids that read One Piece become older.. |
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dariushcc
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Thanks guys for your information. I want to share my info as well I am from IRAN and here Naruto is the most popular anime about 4 times more popular than OP . It's interesting that here bleach is slighty more popular than op.
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