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INTEREST: English Release of Xenoblade Chronicles X Removes Bust-Customization Option

Now I can certainly understand why people would be irked about this, unlike the other example of supposed censorship, this is way less justifiable since, as has been pointed out, breasts themselves aren't inherently sexual, so this is probably more immature if unsurprising on Nintendo's part.

But with that said, people are going to not buy the game over this? seriously? So if the game turns out to be an amazing masterpiece, you'll just be like "nope, it doesn't have a bust slider"? I'm sorry to sound harsh, but that's probably the stupidest reason to avoid buying the game. Like, I can understand why it would annoy you, but it isn't exactly a boycott level problem, is it?

i.e. Nintendo removed a stupid feature that served no practical purpose except pervy ones. For crying out loud, aside from the face editor, the character editor isn't that extensive. All you could do was adjust height/size of the body overall and adjust the boobs. That's it.

and once again, I have to bring up that gamers do not know how to pick their fights. At this rate if Nintendo so much as doesn't leave a game completely unlocalized from Japanese people will riot. Hopefully Nintendo is just ignoring these complaints because they are not what I would call reasonable.

The problem though is that not all developers are going to spend time designing their character creation feature to let players create their exact ideal characters and considering how complex and involved these things can get that's actually not a bad thing.

You haven't actually read the thread then, as there are women posting who are annoyed that they can't customise characters to their liking. Are you actually saying that sex dolls come in all shapes and sizes and people are all the same?

I seen a lot of people claiming that the boob slider would only be there for pervy dudes playing the game. Reasoning being because it doesn't let you customize the rest of your character much. But I see 2 things wrong with this line of reasoning.

1. Even with the boob slider gone characters still have boobs. If the boobs are what is sexualized then changing their size doesn't matter, if they still have boobs then the problem isn't fixed.

2. If you have to censor it because it might be used for the wrong reason (keeping people from using it for the right reason) then you can take this logic a long way. You can't control the camera because you might use it to look up skirts. You can't control men's muscle definition because some girls might find it sexual. You can't have any women in the game because guys might find them sexual even if you can't control their sizes. Etc Etc.

On your first part on them being fine with the outfits on adults but not on children as evident with the Lyn censorship I would agree that that is probably one of the reasons they might have done it but here is where the problem lies, the character you create you can create the EXACT same looking character as Lyn meaning you can make your character look exactly like her, a child with the only different is your characters bust will be slightly bigger but you will still look like a child AND be able to wear those skimpy outfits, thats the problem I have with the whole thing none of it makes sense because any message they are trying to send is just refuted by other means.

I do agree that there should have been much more options to the character creation system like you said, hips, butt etc... and why they aren't there is a valid question to ask but maybe its because I'm a woman and its how I think but when I think of breats I just don't think of them in a sexual way its just a body part, especially in the case of the slider because most of the armor in the game has you fully covered and practical and sans the skimpy optional outfits increasing or decreasing the bust size while wearing full clothing just doesn't scream sexual to me. If this was a more fanservicey game and they only gave you only a bust slider I'd be more inclined to agree but XCX outside of those optional outfits just doesn't scream to me as a typical fanservice game. I do see your point on why one could perceive it as just fanservice but I just personally don't view it as such.

Okay, we have had our differences, but you have to understand that this issue is bigger than your personal opinion on the offensive content. It might be there to "pander to people's libido", but it doesn't affect those who do not care for it in the slightest. The boob slider is there for people who want to mess around with it (females included) and it can be easily ignored if you don't like it. There is absolutely zero reason to take it away from people who want to use the feature.

I am not a gamer, I don't care for the franchise and will probably never play the game, but I will never support censorship. If you are in favor of censorship, it'll be hypocritical of you to complain when something you like gets censored because it will be just as offensive to someone else.

Levitz9 wrote:

As much as I like breasts, boob sliders for an RPG are the dumbest of dumb features. [...] I just see people salty over women being treated as people and not sex-dolls in a game.

You haven't actually read the thread then, as there are women posting who are annoyed that they can't customise characters to their liking. Are you actually saying that sex dolls come in all shapes and sizes and people are all the same?

2. If you have to censor it because it might be used for the wrong reason (keeping people from using it for the right reason) then you can take this logic a long way. You can't control the camera because you might use it to look up skirts.

NearEasternerJ1 wrote:

Why is Japanese on Japanese censoring not attacked like this is? I'm just wondering?

It's simple; most people here don't live in Japan so it doesn't affect us. There's no real use to complain about something that doesn't affect us. If Japanese gamers are upset over the removal of guts falling out of a person's stomach was removed in Metal Gear Solid 5, they're free to protest/boycott it. That's their battle, not ours. Though given how Japanese society is, I wonder how many complain at all about that stuff.

Meanwhile games like Gears of War where you rip people to bits and chainsaw their necks into a fountain of flesh and gore is okay.

DuchessBianca wrote:

Hey! I'm as flat as can be and proud of it, not everyone wishes they were bigger and now the default size is too big to recreate myself in avatar form haha

Omg I'm sorry flat is totally ok and wonderful I didn't mean to come across as being negative at all about that :3

thenix wrote:

I seen a lot of people claiming that the boob slider would only be there for pervy dudes playing the game. Reasoning being because it doesn't let you customize the rest of your character much. But I see 2 things wrong with this line of reasoning. 1. Even with the boob slider gone characters still have boobs. If the boobs are what is sexualized then changing their size doesn't matter, if they still have boobs then the problem isn't fixed. 2. If you have to censor it because it might be used for the wrong reason (keeping people from using it for the right reason) then you can take this logic a long way. You can't control the camera because you might use it to look up skirts. You can't control men's muscle definition because some girls might find it sexual. You can't have any women in the game because guys might find them sexual even if you can't control their sizes. Etc Etc.

Neither of these points debunk or even actually respond to the above stated argument. In fact, they rely on assumptions the above argument cleanly dispels: For #1, that having breasts is inherently sexual. (It isn't. But a character's breasts are made sexual by virtue of the exclusive and disproportionate focus of having such a slider amid little other body customization). And for #2, that this slider is being removed just because it might be used for sexual reasons. (That's not it. The point is, because this is the only proportion modifying slider, that the intent is clearly sexual purposes. Your camera example is disanalogous precisely because it's a free camera. You can do whatever you want with it. Sexual use is incidental. This is more like having a button that snaps the camera instantly to look up your character's skirt though. When that's the one and only thing the camera allows you to do, the intent is clear.)

Lili-Hime wrote:

DuchessBianca wrote: Hey! I'm as flat as can be and proud of it, not everyone wishes they were bigger and now the default size is too big to recreate myself in avatar form haha Omg I'm sorry flat is totally ok and wonderful I didn't mean to come across as being negative at all about that :3

Except maybe when she has kids since biologically flatter boobs potentially produce less milk (not as many glands).

enurtsol wrote:

Except maybe when she has kids since biologically flatter boobs potentially produce less milk (not as many glands).

Wow, that comment is pretty darn inappropriate.

I mentioned in a previous article, but I don't exactly view this as 'censorship', in-so-much as a company adjusting their product to the tastes of a target audience. At the end of the day, the artists and developers making the game are hired to create a product that will sell on the market. They're well aware of the constraints that prevent them from turning games like this into a full-on ecchi/hentai romp, and I sort of view changes like these more like additional constraints applied retroactively because of a different market. What we're presented with at the end of the day isn't necessarily what the artists wanted us to see anyways, but what the company thinks will sell to us, so this isn't exactly curbing freedom of expression as much as a company presenting a product they think will work better over here.