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NEWS: Cross Ange Anime Gets English Dub

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Guessing you won't be back to see this, but what translation error?

Not sure what's funnier? This shows failed attempt at being an exciting or well done mecha anime or even a trashy one or the people who spout garbage like this? But its like people say person's trash is another person's treasure

Black Thunder 6 wrote:

Not sure what's funnier? This shows failed attempt at being an exciting or well done mecha anime or even a trashy one or the people who spout garbage like this? But its like people say person's trash is another person's treasure

If you've seen the whole series and can honestly say that you didn't see substantial character development and growth then I have to wonder what you were actually watching. The Ange at the end of the series is an utterly different person than the Angelise at the beginning, and that change clearly comes in stages. (Admittedly, though, you do have to get a few episodes into the series before this really starts to show.)

Now, you're certainly welcome to regard the show as trashy despite that, because it is. However, it seems to me like you either haven't watched it all or are ignoring what it does right so you can bash the show. Also, you're in danger of crossing a line with comments like "people who spout garbage like this" - and I'm saying that as a Moderator.

SilverTalon01 wrote:

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This is correct for the most part. spoiler[If you don't count Riza using drugs during a sex scene.]

In the first half of ep 23 spoiler[Ange confronted Jill that episode about what Embryo did to her. Among the lines, something should have been translated to "took everything from you" was translated to "raped you", heavily contradicts what was in the flashbacks.] I did not wanted to support Crunchyroll after all the various translation errors that never get corrected (or self censoring like they did with Witch Craft Works), but then they licensed Ultraman and they are Tsubaraya's only hope of beating Chaiyo once and for all.

You mean the Ange that started the show as a self centered jackass was different from the Ange in the end who was a self centered jackass who let an entire civilization rot (Not my problem) at the end of the show when they were just as much victims as everyone else?

Now you are right that it doesn't match the flashbacks. But you are ignoring that spoiler[Ange doesn't actually know the specifics. She quite likely assumed Jill was raped by him because he planned on raping her.]

Yes, there are worse Hentai Anime out there. Way way worse. But none of them are being Dubbed for retail sale or even to be possibly shown on TV like Toonami.

You seem to be just assuming a translation was wrong when you don't actually understand the Japanese.

Not sure what you were watching. Ange in the beginning was a sheltered idealistic girl. She very much cared about other people, but she was too sheltered to see the problems.

Ange in the end realizes that you can't just hand people some magical perfect world. Each person has to work for their happiness, and not only will any paradise that you hand them be flawed but it cripples their ability to be independent. Letting them rely on her is just as flawed as when they relied on Embyro. She learned those things through her experiences.

Yes, she leaves the other world saying it isn't her problem, but it isn't her problem. However, by doing that, she is forcing them to learn to be independent like she had to

She also by the end accepted that there were limits to what she (or a person in general) could do on their own. Her taking it on herself to try to fix everything in the other world wouldn't be pragmatic at all.

Not sure what you were watching. In the beginning she was ignorant and by the end she was ignorant and yeah she did very much care for her "own kind" in the end by sweeping tge other under the rug but apparently this is considered character growty because she's a bitch now.

Yet in the end she was able to rely on her special magical robot to transport into another world where she can live in paradise with her own kind.

I was told otherwise by another person that (supposedly) understood Japanese at Anime Suki, it appears that I got irked over being relayed misinformation. Thanks ST zero-one.

How is she ignorant at the end? She's no longer naive or idealistic and even knows how the truth behind the world works.

Use specifics, please, because everything in the last 2/3 of the series seems to contradict your claim here.

Yet in the end she was able to rely on her special magical robot to transport into another world where she can live in paradise with her own kind. But who cares becausethey were mean and ignorant just like her.

How is she ignorant at the end? She's no longer naive or idealistic and even knows how the truth behind the world works.

So what? She worked pretty damned hard to get to the point where she could do that. It certainly wasn't handed to her.

You do realize that ignorance and naivety are two different things right? Because you can still be an ignorant jackass without being naive or idealistic which Ange was up until the end.

I just finished watching the first episode. I must say, the whole anime should have been gritty and dark. All the bright colors will have you believing something good will come out of this...

WRONG!

spoiler[The princess chick is stripped down in the wierdest way and given a brutal cavity search. Toward the end credits, we see her lying on her tattered clothes with blood stains on them.] It makes me wonder if prison guards are allowed to do that when the prisoner is underaged.

No one should have watched this anime to the end. It's not pretty.

Forgot Sentai had the license to this one. Would have been surprised if had been released subbed-only, as it seemed to be pretty popular and is closer to mainstream than a lot of sub-only titles that they have put out.

Don't see it as CN series, though. The fan service aspect is too heavy.