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Aldnoah.Zero (TV) (both seasons).

And this is based on a huge, unsupported assumption by you and the people arguing this viewpoint: that Inaho would naturally assume that Slaine had betrayed the Vers just because he was fighting against another Vers. We've pointed out time and again that the Earth forces pilots were openly speculating earlier in the episode about whether or not there was infighting amongst the Vers. Hell, the Lieutenant even mentioned at least once (if not more than once) in earlier episodes that because of the nature of the Vers Empire, they might not be above conflicting with one another to get the prize of wiping out the most Earth forces.

And there's also the possibility - which people seem utterly unwilling to accept - that Inaho JUST FREAKIN' MADE A MISTAKE and the writing always intended it to look that way. (Tactical wonder or no, he's still both a teenager and a human and thus eminently fallible.) I had the impression that he was more or less admitting that to the princess in episode 8.

have already explained this about a million times.

Hell, the Lieutenant even mentioned at least once (if not more than once) in earlier episodes that because of the nature of the Vers Empire, they might not be above conflicting with one another to get the prize of wiping out the most Earth forces.

Also it doesn't really explain why they didn't just fish out the jet, it crashed right next to the island and we know the mechs work in water. They shouldn't have had any problem with getting him out since they still had 4 functioning mechs at this point and they had to wait and load the civilian on the ship anyway.

I don't think Inaho cares about anybody except himself and probably his sister. if we look at it that way, spoiler[abandoning Saine] is entirely reasonable

Inaho should have said "Yes, you will see the princess. Land over there please, and we will put your plane on that battleship there, and I'll take you to her." Problem solved.

We have no basis for the lift capabilities of their mechs. From the looks of it, they are barely able to float themselves, much less a plane twice their mass. They could probably have gotten it out of the water eventually, but they had to have suspected (rightly it would turn out) that a larger enemy force would be right behind him, and they had to make a clean getaway. If they'd stayed to recover Slaine, they likely all would have died.

As to your first point, as we've noted several times, SLAINE SHOT FIRST. End of any discussion of him coming along peacefully please.

Who said anything about floating? We know from episode 2 (3?) that the mech can handle being submerge up to the stomach in water, picking up a plane that crashed right next to the shore really shouldn't be a problem. Even if it absolutely is, they could have just grab the cockpit or even just Slaine himself, we know they can communicate with him trough radio so it wouldn't have been hard to tell him to open the cockpit. And again they had to wait for the civilian to board the super ship anyway, unless you think they left the civilian in the abandoned base.

Who said anything about floating? We know from episode 2 (3?) that the mech can handle being submerge up to the stomach in water, picking up a plane that crashed right next to the shore really shouldn't be a problem. Even if it absolutely is, they could have just grab the cockpit or even just Slaine himself, we know they can communicate with him trough radio so it wouldn't have been hard to tell him to open the cockpit. And again they had to wait for the civilian to board the super ship anyway, unless you think they left the civilian in the abandoned base.

Only after Inaho deliberately provoked him into doing so in order to figure out Slaine's intentions towards the princess.

He didn't deliberately provoke anything. He certainly could have been more diplomatic, he probably could have defused the situation, but nothing he said demanded a physical assault, Slaine could have continued the conversation and not gotten shot himself. Consider it like a court case, if they were just people on the street with guns, and Slaine had shot Inaho on the grounds that he said "well what if I did want to exploit her?" would that really hold up as a justifiable homicide? Slaine was in the wrong, Inaho was acting in self defense.

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My issue is people talking about the same points that I've already covered but pretending that I haven't addressed them. Ohoni said that Slaine shot unprovoked but that ignores post after post after post of myself and others pointing out how Inaho clearly provoked him.

Yea, I understand we can argue about the meaning of what we are seeing, but we have to at least be able to accept the basic facts that we see on screen.

Speaking generally with regards to the forum as a whole and also specifically with regards to this thread, my longer posts can take me over an hour to write, each*. This is especially true if I refer to the anime in question and/or look up supporting evidence on the net. So when I see someone ignoring literally pages of lengthy debate and simply claiming that a discussion is over, that is an insult to the hard work and significant effort I put into supporting my position.

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^ My issue is people talking about the same points that I've already covered but pretending that I haven't addressed them. Ohoni said that Slaine shot unprovoked but that ignores post after post after post of myself and others pointing out how Inaho clearly provoked him.

dtm is right. This is what was frustrating me. I'm sure if you were arguing about something and people were pulling this same stuff over and over Theron, you'd probably be a little annoyed as well. Yea, I understand we can argue about the meaning of what we are seeing, but we have to at least be able to accept the basic facts that we see on screen.