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HaruhiToy
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Uh, no. Anyone writing something like this is a very confused person. |
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Shadowrun20XX
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This show has lite sexual innuendo. It was fun and we all moved on.
No need to overanalyze ever series in the forums. The Japanese obviously will never share your feelings on the subjects they animate the most. I'll start reporting everyone of you for not being on topic starting as of now. |
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dark-kyon
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i pass in this anime thinking thinking it would be a generic ecchi anime,mostly because of sankaku complex post,but reading the questionable review and commentary make me want to give a view,well 10 ep in a am surprised of seing a rather tame fanservice anime,with some cuestionable parts,mostly sena scenes,but also some good ones,i believe what the anime succeed in making seing his girls cute and good waifu material,well all except riina-chan.without need of nudity or sexual themes.to me a solid 7 of 10 to this point.
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iloveturkey
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You should probably ask yourself why you're reading reviews then, is it to become informed or are they just another form of entertainment to you? If it's entertainment, then fine, but there are some people who treat reviews as something more than another entertainment source. Personally, any review which tries to have a personality, be it writers who wear their political and social stance on their sleeve, or some godawful wacky internet personality in a video review, I tend to tune off because those reviews are no longer about the show itself, it's now about the reviewer and their views. That's not why I clicked on a review for a specific product. I'm interested in a review for a show or game, so I want to hear about the product, not whether it fits with someone's stance on gun control, or feminism, or Scientology. A person's inability to check those at the door tell me they' might not be the best person to listen to if they're that bias that it seeps into their everyday lives like that. |
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shamisen the great
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But if a review is written well it can be entertaining and informative. If I am uncertain about a show I usually try to read a number of different opinions. If I know where the reviewer is coming from it is easier to determine if my tastes match his or hers.
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nargun
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But this is gibberish. Whether/how a product fits with the reviewer's stance on subject-Y is absolutely something "about the product". What colour is Y, what characters does Y have, how does Y fit in with my perspective on Z. A relationship between two things is a property of them both. [there's a strong tendency for people to regard their own frameworks and preferences as natural/inevitable and so not needing explanation or justification, with only other people being different. In the real world, of course, everyone's as divergent as everybody else, but because your experience of what-it-means-to-be-you is fundamentally different to your experience of what-it-means-for-jim-to-be-jim, it can often be difficult to see the difference between what-it-means-to-be-you and what-it-means-to-be-human. Jim, of course, has a slightly different problem. Awareness of this phenomenon lets you correct for it.] |
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Ali07
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I think that, like many things, people seem to encounter the "extreme" side of the spectrum. Some posts on this thread seem to solidify my claim. It's always the vocal minority that are heard. Ah, and I see that my earlier posts "fall on deaf ears". Oh well, I tried to have civilized discussion...but no one replies. 
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Levitz9
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If this were anime fans being spoken about, we'd be under a veritable deluge of "NOT ALL ANIME FANS!" and similar attempts at covering butts from accusations of poor attitude. It seem the fandoms doth protest too much: it's okay to judge other groups by their extremes (because feminists need policing, amiright?/jk) but Heaven help you if you think that all gamers enjoy trying to find ways to kill kids in Skyrim. Besides, Carl's review isn't even about feminism. It's about the disgusting attitudes portrayed by the main character: that sexua harassment is charming or whatever. Man, screw that. I've had too many people in my life go through abuse just to laugh at it in a show. |
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whiskeyii
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This was one of only two shows I've dropped after the first episode (the other being the Rowdy Sumo show). Honestly, I walked in not knowing that it was an ecchi, but having seen Ben-to recently and liking most of it, I decided to give this show a shot.
Both jokes were about women's underwear, which made it kind of one-note. But overall, this show just made me so uncomfortable. Maybe because, whereas Ben-to was crazy and weirdly self-aware about its humor, this show just played things straight, and for me, it ended up being more sleazy and awkward than tongue-in-cheek or even just plain old funny. |
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Tony K.
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Okay, I tried to see if things would naturally cool down or let up, but I've gotten at least 2 to 3 complaints per day for dudebro's posts. And regardless of the many counter-arguments made against his views and his inability to desist from said agruments, I've decided to put him on Moderated status. I'm tired of the end-around headaches theses dozens of reports are giving me.
Now, excuse me while take a jackhammer to this thread for cleanup. EDIT: Cleanup was actually a lot easier than I thought it'd be. EDIT 2: Also placed his 2nd account, doodbrother on Moderation. |
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gloverrandal
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Personally I find both you guys both look immature. People are quick to make fun of the "not all X" retort, but yet they're also the first to say their own "not all Y" without a shred of irony when their group is suddenly under scrutiny. If people can judge anime fans by the extremes, then people should be able to judge feminists by their extremes as well. The better solute would obviously be not to generalize, but that seems impossible on the internet. That's ultimately why these arguments are so tiring. So many hypocritical people with double standards but without the self-awareness to see they're really just mirrors of each other at the end of the day and no better than the group they're fighting against. People would rather mud sling generalizations than address eachother's points directly. Both of you are at fault. |
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Levitz9
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Here's the problem with your line of thought: when we're talking about, say, Bronies, "gamers", or other fandoms, we're talking about toxic groups. We're talking about people who cry foul for being called out for making jokes out of sexual harrassment, or for actually sexually harrassing women, or for generally being uber-unpleasant. The "NOT ALL X" argument is intolerable because when it comes to non-toxic Bronies or whatever, they're saying "Well, I don't really have much to do with Princess Molestia, don't lump me in with them!". Except that they don't do much to fix what is toxic behavior. With feminists? Lots of talk is made about "feminist extremists" and their strange, hurtful ways and how they devalue feminist arguments... except that they tend to be unfounded or anecdotal. The worst people can come up with tend to be very silly Tumblr posts that are danged far-removed from Feminism in the same way that playing Cribbage is far removed from playing Magic: The Gathering. There isn't a "double standard" when it comes to feminism because the "feminist extremist" is a combination strawman/boogey-man simply made to devalue the feminist message. tl;dr: Guys who think blatant sexual harrasment is A-OK = pretty darn wrong. There isn't a comparison when it comes to feminists. You can't establish a "golden means" here because there really isn't one. Also, I'd like to know where and when it was I called "NOT ALL FEMINISTS". That wasn't remotely my point, not by a long-shot.[/spoiler] EDIT: For the sake of not derailing this thread further, I better get us back on-track... I really have to wonder at what point this blatant attempt at appealing solely to a niche crowd won't cause some sort of collapse in the anime industry. Sure, there is quality to be found in some raunchy harem-comedies (I hear Highschool D  used as an example, I'll take people's word for it), but when so much of it falls under Sod's Law... well, yeah, you have to wonder if at some point, the fans will just get tired. You can only appeal to a tiny group for so long...
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whiskeyii
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I figure fans of the genre find enough variation within individual shows that there's enough to keep them entertained. For me, I feel like all almost all rom-coms or just straight up romances (particularly the shoujo ones) feel pretty much the same to me; there are outliers, but by and large, it's just a genre I tend to avoid, even with live-action stuff. But I'm sure someone else can easily point to, oh, the action genre and say the same thing--maybe that Attack on Titan is like One Piece with monsters or something. And then there's always the case of just rotating out the types of shows you watch when you get burnout. My sister will watch a certain genre of show for days, and then never touch it again for months until she gets the itch to watch [insert genre here] again. |
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SquadmemberRitsu
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I don't even particularly dislike the genre and DxD is nowhere near as bad as it gets. But just because it takes itself more seriously than most ecchi shows doesn't change that the story itself is like something ripped straight out of a sub par battle shonen. |
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naki12
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I see. But did you have to remove his first post where he made some very valid counter-arguments in response to the points raised in Carl's review? It was sensible save for the last paragraph he made. |
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