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britannicamoore



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:59 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
what's your opinion?


In all honesty: I get sick of hearing fansubs destroy the world! Evil fansubs ROAR. But the rest of the column is gold. So I deal.

The flakes make me smile inside and know that that voice that tells me I'm the stupidest person on the planet is wrong.

There are always better questions he could answer- we just have to think up some. Wink
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the_windcaster



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:07 pm Reply with quote
Thanks, Zac.
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Viga_of_stars



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:12 pm Reply with quote
SharinganEye wrote:
Hon'ya-chan wrote:
And awwwwwwww...... to the Rant section, I finished up one yesterday and was ready to proofread it. Damn it. I was gonna rant about how kids in America can't learn to use a bookstore's manga section.
Are we talking obnoxious readers? As in 12 year old spazz kids wearing short shorts lying in front of the manga section at Barnes & Noble as if it were their home and snickering loudly while damaging merchandise and tearing open shrink wraps all the while having an employee stare them down from the counter?

I could definitely elaborate.


I saw one tweener today at borders who I told to please put back the Dragonball collection he was leaving on the floor. I'm not even an employee. Just a regular customer who repects the manga and understands the woes of working retail.

In short: RESPECT THE MANGA N00BS! Twisted Evil

Toshirodragon wrote:
Hon'ya-chan wrote:
Toshirodragon wrote:

umm stop downloading fansubs? But then what would I do with all the extra space on my hard drive? Razz


The traditional Internet tradition...Downloading Porn.


bwahahahahhahahaha

But some of my anime IS my porn!


(Sings the song the internet is for porn)


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Invader_Spooch



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:17 pm Reply with quote
Berserkfury819 wrote:
Zac. Gaius Baltar? Really? I think you're the first person I have ever heard who liked Baltar the best. I would probably go with Commander Adama myself. The great thing about the show is that all the characters have good sides as well as serious flaws.


He's not alone on that. Gaius is a really popular (yet polarizing) character, and IMO the most complex and realistic of the entire show (and one of the most complex characters on television recently).

Not that I don't love the entire cast, because I do. But I think Gaius has so many layers psychologically, and he changes and grows so much throughout the series.

Not to mention is a pretty good guy in the long run who made a few mistakes, but continues to try and do the right thing even when everyone wants to hang him out to dry as an outlet for their own guilt (see the courtroom scene in season 3).

Thanks for mentioning Battlestar, Zac. It's nice to know other smart people with taste are actually watching it.
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CloverKuroba



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:29 pm Reply with quote
Hehe, I like lolcats. Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop

I find myself rewatching Fruits Basket and Azumanga Daioh. Also, Rahxephon is another good rewatch.
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unsinkmbrown



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:50 pm Reply with quote
Ah! Snarky Zac is back. Like so many others, I'm glad the rant section has gone away and I'm looking forward to seeing how 'Hey Answerfan' turns out.

RE: Re-watching anime
For me the series that I'm most likely to re-watch is Trigun, which was the first series I bought myself. I'm more likely to re-watch an anime movie than a series because of the time factor. The anime I've seen the most often would probably be Princess Mononoke (IMHO Miyazaki's best film).

A series I was glad I saw but will never watch again would be Trinity Blood. I'm always interested in a new vampire story but I was very disappointed in this series. However, it did get me interested in the manga and light novels which are much better IMO.

RE: Comedy AMVs
I haven't seen very many myself but the funniest AMV I've seen was called 'Tainted Doughnuts' and was a Cowboy Bebop/Trigun crossover. The humor in that was through the story of the video and not in the music itself. I've seen a handful of Weird Al AMVs; none of them were funny.

RE: Flake
What exactly do the tears of a baby nun taste like and where do you find a baby nun?

My plans of owning Karin were ruined by a such a terrible dub that I cannot support the DVDs at all. I can almost see where the flake is coming from if they weren't such a prejudicial moron.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:50 pm Reply with quote
jsevakis wrote:
At any rate, you two (ikillchicken and Akukaze) are really kind of behaving like the stereotypical female bullies in a Japanese Jr. High class. Maybe you don't realize it, but you're just kind of ignoring everyone else (and Zac) while reaching for a very passive-aggressive united front against him. (Nee!) Just a thought, but the forum thread for the column itself doesn't seem to be the ideal place for that.

Dissenting opinions are fine. We've heard you. Now move on. Nobody is asking you to read the column, and we certainly aren't asking you to participate here if you find it so disrespectful and not funny. I'm sure there are plenty of threads about the Naruto dub that would love to have you.


Okay...I'm just gonna have to take a minute here to get over the shock of being compared to a Japanese Junior High Bully Girl. I didn't exactly see that kinda thing coming. Sorry for "Bullying" poor little Zac and the rest of you. If my dissent is fine, why dont all of you quit bitching about my complaints. I said what I had to say. If you guys enjoy this stuff or disagree, get over it and just ignore it.

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You do not need to read the flake of th week? Gosh some people act like they're force to read something when it's their choice. I normally skip the rant section because I don't find it all that useless but I'm not gonna go on the forum and start bitching about it because there are others that do enjoy it.


Yeah so again, evidently its the end of the f'n world to actually point out when I dont like something. Sorry, next time theres something I dont like, Ill just keep it to myself incase I hurt the feelings of the people who do like it.
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blind_assassin



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:31 pm Reply with quote
Viga_of_stars wrote:
Okay Answerman! About the answerfan. Does this question ONLY apply to downladers because there are some who watch fansubs through other means. (ex. through friends, you tube and streaming sites) But they still watch fansubs and have similar beleifs of a downloader. Can those people be included?


I think those are all the same thing in spirit as downloading them. I get the feeling that the Answerfan question could pretty much be rephrased into "How could the anime industry draw you away from pirated media?" rather than simply interpreting it so literally as to only think it applies to actually downloading the material.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:47 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:

Okay...I'm just gonna have to take a minute here to get over the shock of being compared to a Japanese Junior High Bully Girl. I didn't exactly see that kinda thing coming. Sorry for "Bullying" poor little Zac and the rest of you. If my dissent is fine, why don't all of you quit bitching about my complaints. I said what I had to say. If you guys enjoy this stuff or disagree, get over it and just ignore it.
Now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah Zac saying the same thing to you. Wink

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Yeah so again, evidently its the end of the f'n world to actually point out when I don't like something. Sorry, next time theres something I don't like, Ill just keep it to myself incase I hurt the feelings of the people who do like it.
Works for me. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:53 pm Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
ikillchicken wrote:

Okay...I'm just gonna have to take a minute here to get over the shock of being compared to a Japanese Junior High Bully Girl. I didn't exactly see that kinda thing coming. Sorry for "Bullying" poor little Zac and the rest of you. If my dissent is fine, why don't all of you quit bitching about my complaints. I said what I had to say. If you guys enjoy this stuff or disagree, get over it and just ignore it.
Now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah Zac saying the same thing to you. Wink

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Yeah so again, evidently its the end of the f'n world to actually point out when I don't like something. Sorry, next time theres something I don't like, Ill just keep it to myself incase I hurt the feelings of the people who do like it.
Works for me. Wink


Dude, I think ikillchicken has got enough bashing from dozens of posters.

Do I think he went overboard when criticizing Zac and making accusations?:

Yes, and he could've have sent his complaints by e-mail rather than making it public, but I'll give him credit that he had balls to address an issue which I am also concerned about. (I hope I don't make an enemy for defending ikillchicken and I didn't mean to offend Zac)
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Akukaze



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:37 pm Reply with quote
jsevakis wrote:
Akukaze wrote:
And now I definitely agree with you, haha. Zac is more entertaining, but I think John knows more (by merit of being more closely connected to "the industry" and having seen more anime) so it balances out nicely.


As someone who has been "industry" for seven years, I've seen Zac pretty much everywhere, meeting with everyone and everything noteworthy in that time, and I have yet to meet John. Maybe some of my colleagues have, but I sure haven't, nor has anyone brought him up in conversation. Nor is "Ask John" really referenced or talked about much among industry rep circles the way Answerman is. So, no, he is not more closely connected to "the industry".

I say John is more connected to the industry because he works for a company that sells and has licensed anime. COmpanies usually keep a lot of things close to their chest, sales figures licensing costs and such. While John has never said and I'm sure never will say exactly how many units Risky Safety shipped, or the exact licensing cost of Hera Guu, he does have access to information than I'd say Zac does. But perhaps I'm wrong.

Akukaze wrote:
At any rate, you two (ikillchicken and Akukaze) are really kind of behaving like the stereotypical female bullies in a Japanese Jr. High class. Maybe you don't realize it, but you're just kind of ignoring everyone else (and Zac) while reaching for a very passive-aggressive united front against him. (Nee!) Just a thought, but the forum thread for the column itself doesn't seem to be the ideal place for that.

Dissenting opinions are fine. We've heard you. Now move on. Nobody is asking you to read the column, and we certainly aren't asking you to participate here if you find it so disrespectful and not funny. I'm sure there are plenty of threads about the Naruto dub that would love to have you.

Umm, I'm not agreeing with ikillchicken, I was agreeing with larinon who said that Ask John and Answerman are "part of a well-rounded anime commentary diet." ikillchicken doesn't seem to like Zac's column, so I told him to go read John's. As I said in the post you quoted, I find Zac entertaining. I just think John is a bit more informative sometimes.
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:31 pm Reply with quote
Akukaze wrote:
While John has never said and I'm sure never will say exactly how many units Risky Safety shipped, or the exact licensing cost of Hera Guu, he does have access to information than I'd say Zac does. But perhaps I'm wrong.


I'm pretty sure the only company John has more information on and access to is AnimeNation. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure Zac has access to the Nielson ratings and all the other stuff that John would as well.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:01 am Reply with quote
Mohawk52:

In your attempt to be incredibly witty, you've overlooked the fact that there are obviously major differences between complaining because I dont like parts of Zacs coulmn, and people getting angry because I posted my complaints.

ichiro3923 wrote:
Dude, I think ikillchicken has got enough bashing from dozens of posters.

Do I think he went overboard when criticizing Zac and making accusations?:

Yes, and he could've have sent his complaints by e-mail rather than making it public, but I'll give him credit that he had balls to address an issue which I am also concerned about. (I hope I don't make an enemy for defending ikillchicken and I didn't mean to offend Zac)


Thankyou. Did I go overboard? Maybe my tone was a little harsh, but I stand by all the actual points in what I said.

Im begining to wonder though, since when do we all walk around on eggshells to avoid hurting peoples feeling here? Now someone cant even speak up in my defense without making an enemy of Zac? Or I should send this stuff by Email just incase someone here might read it and disagree?

If I dissagree with something, Im gonna go ahead and say it. If thats gonna piss everyone off, so be it.
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DRWii



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:34 am Reply with quote
I usually liked the rants, but everything comes to an end. Just wish the final rant could have been better than what we had last time.

Endings: Okay, I'm going to go a little off topic here. I have not seen (nor want to see) "Inu-Yasha," but from what I've read here it seems to have fallen prey to "we couldn't adapt the whole manga" syndrome. Why can't the anime companies just wait for a manga to finish before adapting it? It seems like most manga-to-anime series(es?) I've read reviews for have complaints against them about how they "just stop." Or, perhaps they continue past the original and completely change the direction of the story. This isn't automaticly a bad thing, and in the case of "Fullmetal Alchemist" it might be a good thing since you get two awesome and complex storylines (but there is alot of stuff in the manga version I wish I could've seen animated). Basically, I guess what I want is something that is different because the director wants to truly provide a new take on a story or because the original creator wanted them to change it (like "Excel Saga"). This is probably never going to happen often, though.

Re-watching: I try to make sure to only purchase something I'm sure I'll watch more than once. Everything in my collection has been watched more than twice, and I'll watch everything again at some point (even that "Yu-gi-oh!" DVD). Of course, my collection is still fairly small.

Comedy AMVs: Okay, there are some Weird Al videos that suck or are fine but not worth the file space, but there are also plenty of videos that are good. And while you're all only talking about Weird Al (unless I missed or forgot something), I feel that its the same as saying that most AMVs put to a funny or "joke" song aren't good, and I simply don't think that's true. Of course, I make AMVs myself (and most of the videos I've made happen to be comedies), so I probably take this a bit more personally than others might. And to think, I had a few Weird Al video ideas, too. Sad

Flake: Why do most of you seem to like this one (aside from those adorable kittens)? Its really just a very badly written version of an argument that has been around since before I was born: "Subs rock, Dubs suck!"

Okay, now I feel like stating my position in the whole "Dubs vs. Subs" debate, so if you don't care, just skip ahead. Wink I like dubs. Even if I think its inferior to the Japanese version or if I think the acting isn't exactly "quality," I still usually enjoy the dub as much the sub (or I'm at least willing to continually view the dub). The only dub I've heard that I can think of as truly awful was the original "Bubblegum Crisis."* Aside from, like, four (somewhat minor) characters, the voices and acting were terrible (but I'll probably watch it again at some point anyway). That dub, and a few others, have also made me strongly against dubbing songs (but I'll have to put that bias aside when I finally see "Nerima Daikon Brothers" Wink ). And finally, dubs usually have more humorous takes on dialogue (compare "We don't know if he's alive or dead" to "We don't know if he's dead or just naked").

Answerfans: Okay, nothing is going to truly stop me from watching fansubs, but here are some things that can get me to delete downloaded fansubs sooner (sorry, not sending it in since I think it is to simple and/or weak to justify trying to be in the segment):
1) License more series and movies. I don't worry about this unless the anime in question is a least a few years old or hasn't had a terribly positive reaction. But hey, if the "Xenosaga" anime can get licensed under those conditions, I guess anything is possible.
2) Bring the price down. Its easier to get anime if DVDs are cheap (so it'll be a little while before I can get rid of those "Diebuster" subs. Bandai Visual officially sucks).
And while there isn't anything the anime companies can do about this, 3) I need more money. More money+lower prices= less free shelf space! Very Happy

Wow. I think that might be the most written in this forum.


*I've only seen one episode of the "Utena" dub, but I would also recommend that as "watch the sub first."
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:57 am Reply with quote
DRWii wrote:
Endings: Okay, I'm going to go a little off topic here. I have not seen (nor want to see) "Inu-Yasha," but from what I've read here it seems to have fallen prey to "we couldn't adapt the whole manga" syndrome. Why can't the anime companies just wait for a manga to finish before adapting it? It seems like most manga-to-anime series(es?) I've read reviews for have complaints against them about how they "just stop." Or, perhaps they continue past the original and completely change the direction of the story. This isn't automaticly a bad thing, and in the case of "Fullmetal Alchemist" it might be a good thing since you get two awesome and complex storylines (but there is alot of stuff in the manga version I wish I could've seen animated). Basically, I guess what I want is something that is different because the director wants to truly provide a new take on a story or because the original creator wanted them to change it (like "Excel Saga"). This is probably never going to happen often, though.

Firstly, they don't wait til all the manga's out, because they want/need to make an anime adaptation when the series is at it's most marketable - strike while the iron is hot, kinda thing. Some series can get away with long breaks between seasons, some can't.
Secondly, on directors making up their own endings or reimagining a series - both the original mangaka and the fanbase may want an accurate adaptation. Putting your own spin on a franchise could well alienate people already involved with it. Also, while FMA is an example of a director making his own ending, it's somewhat of a rarity. There are many more examples of directors trying to add their own andings and screwing up royally. E.g. Whole lotta stuff by Gonzo.
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