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ManOfRust
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I think that was from the movie. It probably would have worked well as a clip for the tournament also. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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The low motorbike scene was from the movie. A moderately important part of it as well, showing the high level of teamwork and trust between the two, spoiler[despite Belldandy's memory having been temporarily erased.]
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marie-antoinette
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Group A-29
Voting for: Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade Reasons: I still don't like Belldandy. Group A-30 Voting for: Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover Reasons: Yeah...I know. I just finished watching H&C though and having seen the entire story I think these two are actually a better duo than people give them credit for. But no, they aren't even going to get close to winning and probably don't deserve to. But I love them enough to give them at least one vote in their favor (though that may just be because I haven't seen Crest of the Stars). |
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murph76
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Group A-29
Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess [ Video Clip ] vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade [ Video Clip ] Voting for: Belldandy and Keiichi Reason: I like how velocet described them, their relationship is perfectly balanced. They are committed, supportive, loving, a great pair. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover [ Video Clip ] vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars [ Video Clip Voting for: Jinto and Lafiel Reason: Other's arguments. I have not seen enough of either series to judge on my own. |
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Olliff
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Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess [ Video Clip ]
vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade [ Video Clip ] As strong as the Rosette and Chrono duo may be, I still feel that Belldandy and Keiichi have a decisive edge over them. Not only do Belldandy and Keiichi share a romantic bond, but the level of sincerity, devotion, loyalty and openness that they show towards each other is considerably lower in the Chrono Crusade pair. I also happen to be in the minority that loves Belldandy's character. She is easily the most caring anime character that I have ever witnessed. Belldandy exudes an aura of pleasantness and she wishes only to make the lives of those around her more enjoyable. She may be naive at times, but Keiichi is always sure to watch out for her and he would never dream of exploiting her in any way. I also cannot think of another pair that cares more for each other. Both characters are both models of traditional more values. This combination of two pure characters makes a wonderful pair that also happens to make a great romantic duo. Oddly enough, the traditional values aspect of this duo is also a novelty that I enjoy seeing since it is rarely seen in modern anime anymore. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover [ Video Clip ] vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars [ Video Clip ] This choice is simple. I am surprised that the Honey and Clover team has made it this far, especially since the relationship is so one-sided, obsessive and unhealthy. Jinto and Lafiel easily win my vote. |
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dirkusbirkus
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Group A-29
Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess [ Video Clip ] vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade [ Video Clip ] This round is the first time I've voted based purely on clips and what's been posted on the boards. As such, I can't strongly jusify my votes like some posters, but I'm standing by them. Keiichi and Belldandy are the couple with the legacy behind them, AMG being one of the better known anime series out there... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's notoriety must be due in no small part to the chemistry these guys have, and they therefore receive my vote. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover [ Video Clip ] vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars [ Video Clip ] I really, really wish I'd seen both of these anime, and one positive outcome of this tournament, whatever the result, is that I'll definitely have more 'must watch' anime on my radar. Oddly enough, I'm more drawn to Honey and Clover as a series, it's mentioned heavily in the romance anime thread, my favourite genre. But it's apparent from what I've read here and what I've seen in the clips that Jinto and Lafiel are the winners here. |
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Ningensei
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Group A-29
Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess [ Video Clip ] vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade [ Video Clip ] Voting for: Rosette and Chrono Reason: I know, I know, Belldandy and Keiichi are legendary and iconic, but for some reason I just can't vote for them. Maybe it is because I haven't seen all of the anime, or read the manga, but my vote is going to Rosette and Chrono. This pair left quite a memorable impression on me. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover [ Video Clip ] vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars [ Video Clip Voting for: Jinto and Lafiel Reason: This duo is by far one of the best in this whole tournament. If you watch all of the Crest and Banner series then you will definitely know what everyone who voted for them is feeling. Their relationship is just so special, and I really think that the video clip shows that. One of my favorite couples in anime period. |
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ccdx
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Group A-29
Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess [ Video Clip ] vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade [ Video Clip ] I've read some passionate arguments in favor of AMG, but I can't bring myself to vote for them. From what I've seen of Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato their relationship seems, forced. Not sure how else to put it? Belldandy will obviously do anything to please Keiichi like it's her job, which it kind of is. I bet that she eventually comes to love Keiichi just as much as he loves her, but the great duoness everyone else is seeing, I just don't. My vote goes to Rosette Christopher & Chrono. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover [ Video Clip ] vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars [ Video Clip This is way to easy, Jinto Lin & Lafiel win here. After viewing all the couples left in the tournament, I'm starting to lean toward Jinto and Lafiel winning the whole thing. I look forward to seeing how far they go and whether they can beat some of the big competition. |
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Bluebeard
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Group A-29
Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade Winner:Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato In the initial stages of this tournament I saw Keiichi and Belldandy as likely contenders to win their group and in the following rounds I still haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise. I feel that the two duos have different types of relationships which might appeal to different people, and simply put I'm more attracted of the AMG one. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars Blahblah Jinto blah blah blah Lafiel blah.... Really what hasn't been said yet. Don't know much about either, but the H&C seemed fairly weak anyway after making it through the last round. |
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Key
Moderator
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Sounds like you've only seen the first few episodes. Those who have watched deep into the series would not question that Belldandy really does love Keiichi - if not outright, then definitely with time. They make such a great couple because they come out of an initial relationship born of gimmick and selfishness and grow into such an undeniably mutually loving pair that the power of their love even allows them to overcome very powerful attempts to subvert or pervert their relationship. Their relationship becomes far more trusting, stable, and emotionally intimate than Rosette and Chrono ever do. On a side note, this one has proven to be every bit the contentious struggle I thought it would be (only one vote out of 21 separates them right now). Only 22 hours left, and D-29 is still very much up for grabs! |
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dtm42
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Group A-29
Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess [ Video Clip ] vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade [ Video Clip ] I'll have to say Rosette and Chrono. Haven't seen either series, but I vote against Belldandy and Keiichi due to the fact they are more a romantic couple, and it's unfair for them to go so far in a tournament which espouses duos. By that I mean romance should not be the sole or main reason for a duo to be here. Let them win a tournament devoted to romance, but don't compare them to duos that consist of friendships or sibling relationships. Also, I've heard some things about the end of Chrono Crusade which makes me think that Rosette and Chrono had a strong bond. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover [ Video Clip ] vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars [ Video Clip ] Most definitely Jinto and Lafiel. Haven't seen Honey and Clover, but I have seen Crest of the Stars. In my mind there is no contest. I love Jinto and Lafiel as a pairing, both in romantic and non-romantic settings. They complement each other. Even though Jinto is seemingly the useless one, he does provide emotional and moral support to Lafiel, in a sort of role-reversal. They may not be family, but that makes them even better as a duo. Their unlikely friendship is a testament to the bond between them, which is not dependent on family ties or the like. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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You're saying because you can't compare apples and oranges, you refuse to vote for apples? Nonsense. Even if you just ignore the romantic aspect of the relationship, Belldandy and Keiichi are still in the same league as Chrono and Rosette. Both Kei and Bell when under mind control were able to break out of its effects because of concern for the other. They have absolute faith in each other, and they have both risked their lives (and Belldandy her powers) for the other on multiple occaisions. Also, the tournament originally was going to be only for romantic couples, but there was a consensus that the romantic relationships of certain couples were ambiguous and the tournament would be more interesting if the qualifications were broadened. It is unlikely that there will ever be an ANN tournament exclusively for romantic couples. On another note, I find interesting that the clip for Rosette and Chrono includes Rosette explaining that her reason initiating the contract with Chrono is all about Joshua. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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I prefer apples to oranges. But let's pretend that this is a gadget competition. In this round of the Best Gadget Tournament, there was a choice between the iPod and some GPS brand. Now, I don't have an iPod (gasp) or an in-car GPS device. Therefore I am ambivalent towards both gadgets, having never used them. However, I remember there being a Best Portable Media Player Tournament as well, and I recall the iPod doing very well in it. That being the case, I vote against the iPod, since it's already had it's fun. In the interest of fairplay, I want to ignore the hype and choose the underdog, the one that best represents an actual gadget and not a fashion statement like the iPod is. Have I cleared up the issue here with my carefully thought out metaphor thingy? Cause if I haven't, tough, I'm too tired to continue. |
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velocet
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Hmmm. Even though I agree with you somewhat on the couples vs every other kind of pairing problem dtm42, I really can't I'm really follow your logic in this particular match up, following your further explanation. With your analogy, it reads like you're voting against Belldandy and Keiichi not because you've really weighed up the comparative merits of the alternative, but because you don't like voting for what's deemed 'popular'. In the case of this tournament, being iconic and such has actually been detrimental to some pairs progress - certainly I would have thought Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask would have gone further, but they actually struggled to get as far as they did. It's also worth noting that this match up is pretty much neck-and-neck - Rosette and Chrono are hardly an 'underdog' pairing that need support against Big Bad Belldandy and her army of fanboys.
Honestly, I used to have a very similar mindset to you when it came to choosing the underdog/alternative option - oddly enough, iPods included, (not so much now, but certainly as a teenager I went out of my way to stubbornly be as alternative as possible), but then I started thinking about things a different way - sometimes things become popular because they're actually pretty good, and often stuff deserves the praise it gets. Once I started giving the popular stuff a proper chance (and not being overly critical because it contains elements I don't quite like, continuing the analogy, overly fashionable hardware interfering with my indie street cred) I found out that most of the time, these things have a lot going for them. If the duo in question is better in terms of their interaction, strength of relationship within context, importance within their series, then I'm going to vote for them, even if they are a romantic pairing - though I prefer duos with several layers of interaction, purely romantic interaction is just as justifiable as a duo as any other kind is. How is a strong romantic pair any less of a 'duo' than, say, the familial bond of the Elric brothers? The relationship between them is still love - it's just a different kind of love. I've certainly had a gripe about the way people are comparing different relationships to each other, but it's not impossible to do. Judge the pair within their context, and then weigh up the strength of their bond and interaction against the other. This is a best 'duo' tournament, and part of what makes a 'duo' comes from two characters interacting together in a way that is enjoyable, memorable and affecting to the viewer. Yes, I prefer non-romantic pairings too, but romance is as much as part of human interaction as any other kind; dismissing it or ruling it out of a tournament based around pairs of human characters' interaction together seems, well, a bit silly, really. |
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frentymon
Forums Superstar
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Group A-29
Belldandy & Keiichi Morisato from Ah! My Goddess Video Clip ] vs. Rosette Christopher & Chrono from Chrono Crusade [ Video Clip Pick: Belldandy and Keiichi Easy. Rosette and Chrono are great together, but Belldandy and Keiichi are just too much of a classic duo and their bond is very hard to beat. Group A-30 Takumi Mayama & Ayumi Yamada from Honey and Clover Video Clip vs. Jinto Lin & Lafiel from Crest of the Stars [ Video Clip Pick: Jinto and Lafiel Easy again. I haven't been following the tournament for a few weeks, and I'm surprised to see Ayu and Mayama even here. Honey and Clover isn't about any two people, it's about the bonds between just about everyone in the entire cast. Ayu likes Mayama, but that's about it. Ayu might even be closer to Morita, actually. Mayama's also hung up on Rika, Ayu's just the little girl that likes him that he doesn't want to hurt. On the other hand, everything I've read and seen so far suggests that Jinto and Lafiel will be worthy adversaries against Belldandy and Keiichi. |
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