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JuicyB
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You get one point for realizing that Chobits is shit, but you lose two for giving K-on the highest rating.
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John Casey
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Eh, I guess I'll agree with this one too. |
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GWOtaku
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I'd watch K-ON! any day over Chobits, given an either-or choice. It's the worst CLAMP anime I've seen by ten miles for all the reasons given in the column, and surely the most perverse. And yes, I give K-ON! higher marks for humor too. Better to have the "interplay" between the four girls in that show than Hideki having stereotypical harem protagonist reactions when Chii jumps on him in states of undress and finds his porn and so on.
It had content that was just cute too, certainly.....but ugh. No. I've no desire to see it again. Last edited by GWOtaku on Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Charred Knight
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If people think that Chobits is perverted than what about Cardcaptor Sakura, which has the whole plotline involving how two teachers have insanely inappropriate relationships with their 8 year old students.
I think people would kind of get used to Clamp's bizarre writing. |
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Shenl742
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It's all in the execution I guess. |
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Charred Knight
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It's not like you can have sex with a robot in real life, teachers having relationships with students happen all the time. |
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CareyGrant
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The one big problem I have with K-On! is the manner in which they Eddie Van Halen, Yui: from musical noob who can't read sheet music to rock god, literally, overnight.
As for Chobits... yeah, it's painful and dated. I'm sure the manga probably addresses more of Erin's questions, but the anime is just forgetful. |
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Shenl742
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Really, REALLY depends on the execution. Which I think CLAMP more or less does and allows me to enjoy Chobits/CCS/Whatever despite the legitamate points you bring up. That's just how I feel about it, no mystery really. |
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GWOtaku
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Sakura's mother married Sakura's father when she was sixteen (marrying age for women in Japan) and there is zero evidence that Rika's relationship was anything other than chaste until she and Terada got married. Toya/Mizuki was far less serious. Both the manga and anime are clean. It's not even close with these two. |
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Charred Knight
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I am sorry but giving an engagement ring to a child is wrong, you would get fired for that from any school. |
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GWOtaku
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I'm not getting dragged into a debate about it and the story here. You asserted it's just as perverted as Chobits, it obviously isn't.
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Unholy_Nny
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I'm sure Charred Knight realizes it's not as perverted in content shown (lol, underwear and nudity and blushing and porn and lol) but he's just pointed out that CCS is filled with just as much "ick" content as Chobits as far as... Like... Having trouble wording this. Just because they don't show it doesn't make it any less ick/gross/creepy, knaamean? |
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ljaesch
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I'm a little late to the party, but as they say, "better late than never."
I have to say that I respectfully disagree with Erin's classification of Chobits as "Perishable." My husband and I purchased The Chobits Collection about a couple of years ago, after hearing good things about the series from people we trusted. I have to admit that when I first started watching the first few episodes of Chobits, that it was simply going to be a light and fluffy comedy that relied on "ecchi humor." However, between the fact that we purchased the box set, and the fact that I would be reviewing the series and the set for a website that I write about anime at, I knew I needed to press on and finish the series. I'm glad I did continue on. Because as the series progressed, it started to get a little darker, the series started going in another direction, and it really began to look at the persocoms and some of the social issues that have already been brought up in spoiler tags throughout this thread. There's also a point in there where Hideki even begins to question and wonder about the persocoms, especially when it comes to his relationship with Chi. There's definitely more than one layer to the story of Chobits if you're willing to look beyond the surface. When it comes to the Chobits manga, I have only managed to read the first three volumes of the series. I'm hoping at some point to be able read the rest of the series and see how it compares to the anime. |
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torinostu351
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Erin, you rock. I'm amazed at how many people 'lose respect' for you over your take on a series; a take that is apparently echoed by more than a few people. I guess everyone has things they take just a little too seriously and are unable to view objectively.
Don't be disheartened! You do a great job and even though I don't always agree with you and also sometimes wonder, "Wait, did she watch the same show I did?" I at least respect you as a fellow fan. And I agree with you on all accounts in your reviews this time. (However, I'm baffled by people comparing K-ON! to Chobits, just because you did both reviews at the same time. Obviously, Needless isn't loved by anyone, but would people have compared Chobits to Cowboy Bebop if you'd reviewed that in the same article? I mean, no comparison . . . in either regard.) |
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erinfinnegan
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I think that specifically Chobits might be drawing more on Naomi, a novel by Junichiro Tanizaki, which itself was influenced by Tale of the Genji. I suspect the incest in Tale of the Genji continues to influence manga a great deal to this day. Either that, or Chobits is influenced by Princess Maker. In any case, the big difference between Pygmalion and Chobits is the maturity level of the characters, and the fact that the training doesn't work on Pygmalion. I've never read Naomi...
Ido loves Alita like a daughter, and I think Alita loves him as a father, but she romantically pursues other dudes. Also I think she has a human brain.
I love all of those series. I'd go so far as to say Urasei Yatsura, Video Girl Ai, and Golden Boy are all Shelf Worthy. |
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