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Akaname



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:20 am Reply with quote
Animeking1108 wrote:
I thought everyone else had their ability to enjoy the series ruined like I did.


So you admit your intention was to ruin people's viewing experience with your lazy, spoiler filled rant. If I had any say as to how this site was run, you wouldn't exist here.

[EDIT: A little overboard with the reaction, there, so I cut a few things. -TK]
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Tony K.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:43 am Reply with quote
Spoiler tags are a courtesy. Just because someone else ruins a a big reveal for you doesn't mean you have to do the same for everyone else. That would make you just as much an a-hole as you claim those other people to be (i.e. being a hypocrite, unless you just admit to being an a-hole to being with, which in that case, you can go cram it).

So instead of turning your unhappiness and personal agendas into Internet rage and trying to take down as many people with you as you can, either be more courteous to people (if you have any good in you); or, if you insist on trolling, you can go on Moderation so we can keep your ass-hattery under control.
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Bango



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:25 am Reply with quote
I'd actually like to see the forum's take on spoilers added to teh rules, just to make it official, whatever it is. Even if it's just a "don't be a jerk". Most other forums I've been on have considered the person's intent when spoiling stuff. Like, if they outright say they intend to spoil people, they'll be punished the same they would for a threat or whatnot.

And more on-topic, another topic reminded me that another unpopular opinion I have is that I really hate combat tournaments that last more than an episode or two.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:58 am Reply with quote
If anyone would like to submit suggestions for "spoilers etiquette," feel free to make a thread and voice your concerns/opinions in the Feedback forum.

Not sure if it'll become important enough to put it into "Teh Rules," but I could just as easily make a "policy" out of it, much like necroposting and recommendation threads.
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Boomer





PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:05 pm Reply with quote
Unpopular anime opinions. Okay, here goes:

Akira is a steaming pile of crap. While the story and animation might have been groundbreaking for their time, I am mystified to this day about the (near) universal praise this movie gets. From its disjointed and incoherent plot to the switching of genres to the ugly character designs, this movie is a complete mess. No, I have not read the manga on which it is based nor do I intend to. I base my opinion solely on what I saw in the movie and, judging by that criterion alone, I consider it to be one of the most overrated shows of all time.

Burst Angel is not a bad TV series. Sure, it's no masterpiece by any means, and it does have its fair share of silliness and meandering storylines. As a fan of cyberpunk, however, I did find enough in it to keep me interested, and many of the action scenes were quite engaging. Much of the animation was also very well done, giving the show an above-average visual style.

Mardock Scramble went off the rails and descended into farce. I will give this show props for its animation quality and hardcore unflinching action. I am also willing and eager to give any new entry in the cyberpunk genre a chance. However, the Oeufcoque character almost completely ruined The First Compression for me. The presence of a seemingly magical character in a dark futuristic story killed the atmosphere and kept me from taking the show as seriously as it was meant to be taken. It was not until The Second Combustion that things got truly bizarre during the overlong alternate reality sequence and an equally unnecessary scene in a casino. I won't be watching The Third Exhaust. I am done. I don't want any talking mice or dolphin lovers in my science fiction, thank you very much.

I managed to watch the first three episodes of Attack on Titan at an anime festival, and I am here to report that it is not the hottest new series by a long shot. When I first heard the title, I honestly thought that it was a science-fiction tale set on Saturn's moon. Instead, it's a weird fantastical period piece whose main plot device involves a war against marauding giants with exposed muscle tissue. The animation and many of the action scenes are very well done, but there is little in the story or characters to grab me. This show is an example of a recent trend in "serious" anime where a single weird and impossible premise is used as a springboard to build a story around characters as opposed to extrapolating from the real world and building a sense of awe from the ground up. Anyway, color me unimpressed.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:34 pm Reply with quote
^ Admittedly, from someone who has seen Akira twice, I kind of get your complaints. I think that the story and plot were really weak in that they were trying to do way too much in 2.5 hours. For characters, while they weren't...badly written, the only one I found to be interesting was Tetsuo, and that's kind of the whole point. The movie's more interesting if you know anything about it's purpose and what the Japanese social background was at the time. So, go read a book.

And concerning AoT, yeah, that criticism concerning what you thought the show was going to be is entirely on you. The is one of the cases where somebody comes in expecting a cake that was never offered, and then throwing a tantrum when they don't get that never-offered cake. Sorry, but that's what it sounds like. I can't further comment because I'm only on the fourth episode.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:59 pm Reply with quote
Boomer wrote:
This show is an example of a recent trend in "serious" anime where a single weird and impossible premise is used as a springboard to build a story around characters as opposed to extrapolating from the real world and building a sense of awe from the ground up.


That's been the case since forever, not just in anime but in all forms of media, and not just with bad stories but with good ones too and everything in between. Along with the specter of the titans you've got the setting of the walls and the combat with the maneuver gear, all three of which are fresh ideas.

[EDIT: Made your comments less condescending. -TK]
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:00 pm Reply with quote
Boomer wrote:
Unpopular anime opinions. Okay, here goes:

Akira is a steaming pile of crap. While the story and animation might have been groundbreaking for their time, I am mystified to this day about the (near) universal praise this movie gets. From its disjointed and incoherent plot to the switching of genres to the ugly character designs, this movie is a complete mess. No, I have not read the manga on which it is based nor do I intend to. I base my opinion solely on what I saw in the movie and, judging by that criterion alone, I consider it to be one of the most overrated shows of all time.


I don't like Akira either. It's honestly a very ugly movie to me. Too violent and weird and just......ugh.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:04 pm Reply with quote
Akane the Catgirl wrote:
And concerning AoT, yeah, that criticism concerning what you thought the show was going to be is entirely on you. The is one of the cases where somebody comes in expecting a cake that was never offered, and then throwing a tantrum when they don't get that never-offered cake. Sorry, but that's what it sounds like. I can't further comment because I'm only on the fourth episode.


While it is true that I am not generally a fan of the fantasy genre, there are anime with fantastic elements that I quite enjoy. Even after realizing exactly what it is, I don't think I can get further into Attack on Titan. Perhaps it would have worked better as a straight-up military drama without giants. At least I would not have been distracted by the silliness of its premise, especially for a show that takes itself so seriously.
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Bango



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:19 pm Reply with quote
I respect Akira for it's animation and landmark status but I don't really enjoy the film either. It's kind of a mess and while the art and animation is fantastic and the characters are well-drawn, I just don't like the style it's drawn in.

But then again I tend to not like anime films period. Some are good but most of the time I wish it were an OVA.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:42 pm Reply with quote
As a fan of Akira (though I don't consider it to be THE end all masterpiece many do) I can respect people's opinions that they don't like the plot. Or the characters. I can get that. I can even understand if you say the animation STYLE is simply not your cup of tea. But I have issues with those that trash the animation quality, not the same as style, itself if they weren't even out of diapers when it came out. I have seen quite a few fans bash older shows and their animation quality while taking zero thought into account of the time period the movie/series/OVA is from.

I find far too many use more modern animation as a bas eline comparison which I simply feel you can't do. It's simply not fair and like comparing apples to oranges. You may not like the way the characters are drawn. How the artists did the backgrounds or whatever else. Judging a show based on it's animation quality though without taking into account the time period it's from is bollocks though. That's not to say that many a show or movie don't have bad animation quality. Many do. But you really should, with older titles in particular, take into account the quality available at the time of that show to base your opinion on. Not the quality available decades later.
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Panzer Vor



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:52 pm Reply with quote
Boomer wrote:
I managed to watch the first three episodes of Attack on Titan at an anime festival, and I am here to report that it is not the hottest new series by a long shot. When I first heard the title, I honestly thought that it was a science-fiction tale set on Saturn's moon.

You're not the only one who thought the exact same thing. I'd still like a science-fiction tale set on the moon of Titan, but whoever's gonna make it will need to find a new title for it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 10:07 pm Reply with quote
Tony K. wrote:
[EDIT: Made your comments less condescending. -TK]


Fine. But Boomer's criticism is still invalid though, for the reasons that I mentioned above.
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Boomer





PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 11:35 pm Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
Tony K. wrote:
[EDIT: Made your comments less condescending. -TK]


Fine. But Boomer's criticism is still invalid though, for the reasons that I mentioned above.


An opinion cannot be valid or invalid. It's an opinion. Nobody's asking you to agree. Deal with it.
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Chiibi



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 11:38 pm Reply with quote
Psycho 101 wrote:
As a fan of Akira (though I don't consider it to be THE end all masterpiece many do) I can respect people's opinions that they don't like the plot. Or the characters. I can get that. I can even understand if you say the animation STYLE is simply not your cup of tea. But I have issues with those that trash the animation quality, not the same as style, itself if they weren't even out of diapers when it came out. I have seen quite a few fans bash older shows and their animation quality while taking zero thought into account of the time period the movie/series/OVA is from.


Oh no, I definitely agree Akira has quality animation for its time and even now. If it didn't, the graphic violence wouldn't be able to squick me so much.

It's just the aesthetics I'm not fond of. I'm too spoiled by 'pretty' shows. lol Perhaps it's a bit too realistic in style. I tend to not like those very much.


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