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DavidShallcross



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:23 pm Reply with quote
erinfinnegan wrote:
I have a Kodansha bilingual edition of one volume of Shima. There are a handful of volumes around.

Ah. I see Kodansha did at least 5 bilingual volumes of Division Chief Kosaku Shima, as well as 5 of Survival in the Office (O.L. Shinkaron), and 1 of Dilbert. All primarily targeted at a Japanese audience trying to learn English, judging by the ads in the back of the one Kodansha Bilingual Comic I have.
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Teriyaki Terrier



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:23 pm Reply with quote
neocloud9 wrote:
Blood- wrote:
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I don't dislike yaoi, but the protagonist looked really young and had basically been sold into prostitution and was coming down with Stockholm Syndrome… so no. A world of "no".


I've never seen a frame of a yaoi anime in my life...but isn't that the plot of every one ever created?


No, but the porn of any genre is going to include cringe-worthy tropes like that. There are plenty of sweet and rather vanilla yaoi series out there, just like there are with yuri and het. But those are never the ones you hear about, natch. After all, isn't all hentai filled with tentacle rape?


If that is what you of H titles, what is this
[url]
anime#6263[/url]

and this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elven_Bride

And last but not least, this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttobi_CPU

See for yourself, not all H titles are like you said tentacle related.

And no, just because I listed them, does not mean I watch the series. One of the references came from here and the other wikipeida.
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Sailor S





PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:24 am Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
neocloud9 wrote:
Blood- wrote:
Quote:
I don't dislike yaoi, but the protagonist looked really young and had basically been sold into prostitution and was coming down with Stockholm Syndrome… so no. A world of "no".


I've never seen a frame of a yaoi anime in my life...but isn't that the plot of every one ever created?


No, but the porn of any genre is going to include cringe-worthy tropes like that. There are plenty of sweet and rather vanilla yaoi series out there, just like there are with yuri and het. But those are never the ones you hear about, natch. After all, isn't all hentai filled with tentacle rape?


If that is what you of H titles, what is this
[url]
anime#6263[/url]

and this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elven_Bride

And last but not least, this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttobi_CPU

See for yourself, not all H titles are like you said tentacle related.

And no, just because I listed them, does not mean I watch the series. One of the references came from here and the other wikipeida.


You seem to have problems telling when people are being serious. It's obvious that he doesn't think that all hentai is filled with tentacle rape, he was making a point about generalizing.

As per the article, sign me up for the crowd that gasped at Erin when she said she fell asleep during the first ep of Cross Game. Take some 5 Hour Energy and try again! It was easily my favorite anime of 2009 (yeah, it went into 2010, but this year's not over yet so it doesn't count).

Glad to see Rental Magica got some decent reviews. It's one of the few shows that I've taken a blind stab at mainly because Nozomi has given me such quality that I'm willing to take a flier on a show they picked up that I know nothing about. It's getting harder and harder for me to remain ignorant about any series these days. I kinda miss the thrill of the blind buy.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:50 am Reply with quote
vashfanatic wrote:
Blood- wrote:
Non-con...I'm assuming that's an abbreviated form of "non-consensual"? I'm not trying to be cute here, but what is the difference between "non-con" and rape?

"Non-con" is surprise sex you didn't know you wanted!

i.e. rape, only everyone is somehow happy afterward....


Well, everyone knows that raep only hurts at first....


vashfanatic wrote:

I need to find this salaryman show, though, it sounds fun. Did you get this via Netflix or something?


Ah, Sarariman Kintaro, such an old and rare title where a middle-age is the main character. Laughing

Anyways, if you play enough sports, you'd already sprained a muscle or two, as the least of your injuries. That's why otaku avoid physical exertion; pain makes them cry. Oh, but let me plug again - ESPAÑA!!! Cool
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neocloud9



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:18 am Reply with quote
Sailor S wrote:
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
neocloud9 wrote:
Blood- wrote:
Quote:
I don't dislike yaoi, but the protagonist looked really young and had basically been sold into prostitution and was coming down with Stockholm Syndrome… so no. A world of "no".


I've never seen a frame of a yaoi anime in my life...but isn't that the plot of every one ever created?


No, but the porn of any genre is going to include cringe-worthy tropes like that. There are plenty of sweet and rather vanilla yaoi series out there, just like there are with yuri and het. But those are never the ones you hear about, natch. After all, isn't all hentai filled with tentacle rape?


If that is what you of H titles, what is this
[url]
anime#6263[/url]

and this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elven_Bride

And last but not least, this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttobi_CPU

See for yourself, not all H titles are like you said tentacle related.

And no, just because I listed them, does not mean I watch the series. One of the references came from here and the other wikipeida.


You seem to have problems telling when people are being serious. It's obvious that he doesn't think that all hentai is filled with tentacle rape, he was making a point about generalizing.


Exactly, the whole point of my post was that people only hear about the most infamous examples of a genre, especially when it comes to adult content. I know good and well that not all hentai is tentacle rape and said as much in the very post he quoted!

(But I'm a she, BTW.) Wink
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:31 am Reply with quote
I'll won't pile on about Cross Game, Erin, but given your comments about Kintaro, I wonder if you ever watched Hataraki Man? The main character is an overworked female editor at a Japanese magazine. It's main themes are the degree to which work in Japan squeezes out personal time, and the power of patriarchal attides in the Japanese workplace. I think you'd like it.

Tanaka Rie's gives a remarkable performance as the editor and sounds nothing like her more moe~ roles.

Did you happen to watch House of Five Leaves on Funimation? If not, I suggest you give that a try as well.
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Zin5ki



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:37 am Reply with quote
Alas, I saw a complete boxset of Salryman Kintaro on sale for a ridiculously-low price in a stationary shop once, but declined from obtaining it through fear of it being a bootleg. Later investigation has lead me to conclude that I turned down a legitimate acquisition, one that might have been worth the offered price at the very least.
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erinfinnegan
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:59 am Reply with quote
DavidShallcross wrote:
Ah. I see Kodansha did at least 5 bilingual volumes of Division Chief Kosaku Shima, as well as 5 of Survival in the Office (O.L. Shinkaron), and 1 of Dilbert.

I picked up O.L. Revolution last time I was in Japan - the best place to buy the Kodansha bilingual editions is a Kinokuniya in the States or in Japan, because online they're crazy expensive. But I've never seen Dilbert in a bilingual edition!!! That sounds great.

enurtsol wrote:
Anyways, if you play enough sports, you'd already sprained a muscle or two, as the least of your injuries. That's why otaku avoid physical exertion; pain makes them cry.

I failed to mention that I had previously been injured running track and/or cross country in high school. In that case it was more of a knee thing, solved with simple orthotics and some good old physical therapy. It wasn't nearly as painful (that I remember).

I still like to run on weekends and lift weights... but not the last two weekends...!

yuna49 wrote:
...Erin, but given your comments about Kintaro, I wonder if you ever watched Hataraki Man? The main character is an overworked female editor at a Japanese magazine. It's main themes are the degree to which work in Japan squeezes out personal time, and the power of patriarchal attides in the Japanese workplace. I think you'd like it.

I have been meaning to watch that for YEARS! There's a live action drama too, right?

I heard a rumor that a certain publisher might bring the manga over, but I haven't heard about it in a long time, so I'm not holding my breath on that one.

In any case, Suppli volume 4&5 just came out in one big book (thanks Tokyopop!!), so I have my O.L. fix for now.

yuna49 wrote:
Did you happen to watch House of Five Leaves on Funimation? If not, I suggest you give that a try as well.

I watched the first episode... I almost watched more of it last night. I might check it out tonight.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:42 am Reply with quote
If Salaryman Kintaro is so old, is what it teaches you about Japanese culture still valid today?

Other Erin - Wow, you have a huge collection there, with some very nice things Smile Nice to see another Miyazaki fan as well. Nausicaä was one of my first anime too, even before I got bitten by the anime bug.

Yuna - Thanks for the tip re: Hataraki Man. Do you know of any other anime like that (adults/working life, female perspective)?
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Kyokat



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:05 pm Reply with quote
Since all the things you described about No Money as being your turn-offs are right in the description everywhere I've ever seen a summary for it (which is how I knew to stick to Junjo Romantica myself), why did you rent it in the first place? It's an adult title; what's "No Money" going to refer to but prostitution, anyway? It's like renting Jurassic Park and then complaining it has dinosaurs in it and they scared you.

Poor Rental Magica. "It's better than this terrible porno I just described, yay!" You don't have to worry about the girl who calls Itsuki "Brother," it's just your usual younger girl addressing an older guy in a friendly way thing. Itsuki's harem is limited to the three girls actually his age, not that he ever does anything with them. (In fact, I think you might be shocked by who gets married in the ending.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:40 pm Reply with quote
erinfinnegan wrote:
I'm going to explain with a diagram:


That explains how its possible, but it still makes no sense. Streaming is less trouble than renting, everything rent-worthy ought to be stream-worthy.

The problem is that "stream-worthy" tries to cover too much ground, from things worth watching if you have some time to kill to things worth watching several times ... "re-stream worthy", if you will.

Indeed, the way the diagram lines it up, something to be flushed down the toilet can be better than something to be tossed in the garbage like spoiled fruit. Which is a bit odd.
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erinfinnegan
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:54 pm Reply with quote
Kyokat wrote:
Since all the things you described about No Money as being your turn-offs are right in the description everywhere I've ever seen a summary for it (which is how I knew to stick to Junjo Romantica myself), why did you rent it in the first place? It's an adult title; what's "No Money" going to refer to but prostitution, anyway? It's like renting Jurassic Park and then complaining it has dinosaurs in it and they scared you.

I didn't read a summary. It's yaoi, why would I need a summary? It's about dudes getting rude, as Daryl Surat would say. I just threw a bunch of yaoi into the rental queue without any research.

Did I learn an important lesson from No Money? Probably not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:04 pm Reply with quote
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I didn't read a summary. It's yaoi, why would I need a summary? It's about dudes getting rude, as Daryl Surat would say.

No offense meant but isn't that a bit rude in itself? I mean that's like saying "it's a comedy, why would I need a summary? It's all about the lulz." Not all titles are the same and that comment to me just disregards an entire theme/sub-genre with one big blanket statement. I don't mean to offend but as a reviewer here I don't see how you could just dismiss an entire theme/sub-genre like that and basically say they're all the same and I don't need to know anything about them.
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Psycho 101 wrote:
No offense meant but isn't that a bit rude in itself? I mean that's like saying "it's a comedy, why would I need a summary? It's all about the lulz."

Well, more specifically No Money is 18+ rated hentai. How much of a summary do you need for porn? Usually a sentence or less is enough.

I'm not some total n00b to yaoi, I'm aware that there will likely be an uke and a seme. I know there is some variance in the genre, I was being a little sarcastic.

Mostly I like to know in advance how explicit it will be and/or if I'm going to find it horribly offensive or not, where offensive is all-rape-all-the-time and/or shotacon.

I don't want to offend yaoi fangirls, a category which may or may not include me.


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yuna49



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:00 pm Reply with quote
Kimiko_0 wrote:
Yuna - Thanks for the tip re: Hataraki Man. Do you know of any other anime like that (adults/working life, female perspective)?


I can't think of any other shows along these lines. There are shows like Planetes and Library Wars (the noitaminA one not "Armed Librarians") which follow a young woman as she joins, respectively, a group of space trash collectors and a military unit that protects the right to read. Obviously neither of these represent real-life professional situations, but they do touch on some of the same issues and present the stories from the woman's point of view. Both shows have a romantic relationship between the woman and her senpai trainer.

Tale of Saiunkoku might be seen as at least somewhat relevant since it concerns a young woman who wants to become the first female official in a fantasy Asian empire. Some romance here, too, but the woman is very focused on her goal and her desire to help the people of her country.

In Welcome to the NHK! one of the supporting characters is a recent graduate who is working as a civil servant. However this is a pretty minor subplot.

[I hope this doesn't get pulled as a consequence of the "no recommendations" rule.]


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