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Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga - The Greatest Censorship Fails

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…co-opted by weeaboo Nazis…

Curious. Such a choice of words renders the underlying idea far more lucid than it really should.

trandraskell wrote:

I actually did read the link but you are using extreme case here, as Christian they have a right to be upset they feel that people are forcing them to abandon their beliefs just to be accepted in this world. Do you know what hate speech truly is what WBC does is hate speech, while most Christians may not agree with homosexuality and its lifestyle they do not to see it everywhere and they don't want to be force to change because of their beliefs. This whole subject of manga being censored has nothing to do with Religion at all.

It doesn't? Then why did you follow up with this:

trandraskell wrote:

This has to do with a corporations making choice based on the comic code that exist in the USA. This is why these changes are done, for the corporations and by the corporations and nothing more. The corporations do not want to be sued because they might have offended a Religious group or ethic group period.

I have to question your sincerity in getting me to change my mind about this stuff, you know. You have been nothing but hostile and contradictory. In fact, congratulations, you have succeeded only in reinforcing my earlier opinions.

and uh, ethnic group? --This particular discussion has nothing to do with race. That's another topic.

oh, wait, I just noticed you wrote ethic group. Is that different from a religion?

Sorry I spelled ethic group wrong, I am not being hostile at all, you were the one that lambasted Christians and Jesus so I called you out on it. You brought the issue of Christians forcing the changes done to manga and censorship and I called you out on that.

These companies remove all offensive objects not just religious objects i.e."swastikas because it might cause issues with Jewish people, removal of Christ on the Cross, removal of the crescent moon because it may cause issue with Muslims and Nudity because of a possible underage child seeing the image.

Can you see the difference it not religion forcing any changes it our society as a whole forcing these changes and the companies protecting their money and as Marc said earlier they don't want the blame if something goes wrong.

It's always surprised me that there's no giant internet database listing all censorship in English editions of manga.

This is reeeally interesting stuff. The Shaman King "remove the crosses" example is especially neat, since on the very same page you literally have some kid being torn open, organs exposed, which I would think more people would find upsetting than a crucifix!

I actually read up on the censorship in the Pokemon manga the other day, it actually had A LOT of fanservice! Gotta wonder how that one slipped past Nintendo, especially when it was related to one of their most lucrative franchises.

By the time Shonen Jump was licensed in English things were much tighter between Viz and Shueisha. I know that Shueisha didn't want I"s to be labeled "18+" because it would have meant lower sales, and I would be extremely surprised if Katsura hadn't approved everything in the Viz edition.

They did a terrible job "erasing" the sides of the crosses in MAR. They turned them into sticks but they didn't bother to touch up the backgrounds which clearly show an outline of the missing pieces.

It sort of turns its head on the whole stereotype we have here in America where it's hot and accepted for two girls to be making out, but guys? That's just maddness.

Although I am religious, I never understood why they would censor crosses and religious symbols. I always felt editing it out felt more "offensive" than including it in any way.

Bastard!! is another one, with the various references to '80s heavy metal bands.

just a thought here what would happen if to love ru/darkness or knj was released in the states??? I am sure if they did, there would be entire blank pages with text just to talking about great overall plot <_<

I know it's chump change, but I'm still miffed about the Greed cross change in FMA.

A lot of people were crucified, not just Jesus. And so what if they were making him into a Christ figure? It's not trying to defame Jesus at all.

trandraskell wrote:

Sorry I spelled ethic group wrong, I am not being hostile at all, you were the one that lambasted Christians and Jesus so I called you out on it. You brought the issue of Christians forcing the changes done to manga and censorship and I called you out on that. These companies remove all offensive objects not just religious objects i.e."swastikas because it might cause issues with Jewish people, removal of Christ on the Cross, removal of the crescent moon because it may cause issue with Muslims and Nudity because of a possible underage child seeing the image.

How can you list all these religious justifications for censoring things and then say:

trandraskell wrote:

Can you see the difference it not religion forcing any changes it our society as a whole forcing these changes and the companies protecting their money and as Marc said earlier they don't want the blame if something goes wrong.

That is a total contradiction!


And, BTW, I will continue to lambaste whatever I wish. You have done absolutely nothing to create a favorable impression of your religion.

These companies remove all offensive objects not just religious objects i.e."swastikas because it might cause issues with Jewish people, removal of Christ on the Cross, removal of the crescent moon because it may cause issue with Muslims and Nudity because of a possible underage child seeing the image.

Can you see the difference it not religion forcing any changes...

Maybe you need to read this article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing_of_anime_in_American_distribution
It about what our society deems normal and acceptable, do I agree with the censorship no I don't but I can accept if a company chose to censor a product because of legal issue I will. Religion in the US not force any changes to laws only a society as a whole can make changes. I know that I will not change your mind and you will be closed minded. I am not here to gain favor with you or anyone else. I called you out for the same hate you spouted against Christians that you claim that we are guilty of.

I actually read up on the censorship in the Pokemon manga the other day, it actually had A LOT of fanservice! Gotta wonder how that one slipped past Nintendo, especially when it was related to one of their most lucrative franchises.

But a dictate came down from the Powers Above (no, not God) that one particular tombstone was too objectionable, and I had to give the letterer the interesting instructions, "Remove Jesus from cross."

trandraskell wrote:

Maybe you need to read this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing_of_anime_in_American_distribution It about what our society deems normal and acceptable, do I agree with the censorship no I don't but I can accept if a company chose to censor a product because of legal issue I will. Religion in the US not force any changes to laws only a society as a whole can make changes. I know that I will not change your mind and you will be closed minded. I am not here to gain favor with you or anyone else. I called you out for the same hate you spouted against Christians that you claim that we are guilty of.

If it helps any, I don't like most religions, not just yours. What I really dislike, is a specific religion influencing policy for everyone.

The article reinforces my happiness that our country is becoming more secular.

Every Year.

As Jason's column stated, there is a lot less censorship "today" than there was "then".

I guess all these publishing companies are becoming, like me, more "closed minded" to the yelping of increasingly marginalized interest groups. So yay!

The article reinforces my happiness that our country is becoming more secular.

Every Year.

As Jason's column stated, there is a lot less censorship "today" than there was "then".

of course, the manji is an ancient and important Buddhist symbol with was co-opted by weeaboo Nazis

Do people actually care if Kai is censored on TV? I mean the censorship is pretty good, besides the dumb mandates by the CW. Even then, there's still the home release which is uncut.