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Dargonxtc
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"Makes children Cry!"
Oh Goro you fool. |
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Swissman
Posts: 768 Location: Switzerland |
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Yeah, Only Yesterday has a conservative message. But this doesn't make it a bad Ghibli movie, I think. Just consider for which audience the movie has been made (adult japanese), the time it has been produced (1991) and the time the story takes place (1966 <---> 1982). Those were simply other times. The eighties saw the rising of independent Office Ladies which was somehow a concern in japanese society. The seventies and early eighties had a boom for furusato, one's homeland in the country. Takahata made a mix out of both ideas. The conservative message behind the movie is less that Taeko should ditch her career and marry a farmer but more in the general preference of furusato life over city life. City life is connected with stress, no real goals in life, egoism and loose family ties, whereas furusato is in the realm of "japanese" nature as oasis, old folkcraft and strong family ties. The "native place" where japanese people implicitly belong and should return again. Taeko has found her place in furusato – even if it's not her real home-town (she never had one) – and lets go of city life with her (egoistic) inner child. |
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halochief_90
Posts: 466 Location: Canada |
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I'm sure, seeing as the average isn't like 0.5 out of 5, some people might've really liked the movie, but still I can't help but wonder that this may be the first bad Ghibli move... |
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Bl00dHoUnD
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I think most people on the forum knew it was directed by his son, but for those who didn't there it is ^^. |
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Carl Horn
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I can see that, but, as you say, it's an interesting point of view. I don't think, for example, PRINCESS MONONOKE is suitable for young children (I also think it's Miyazaki's best film). And as for Ghibli films not making children cry...this is the studio of GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES (which Roger Ebert said deserved to be ranked with SCHINDLER'S LIST). But GRAVE was released eighteen years ago; one wonders how Ghibli has been increasingly "branded" in the years since then. Money, as they say, changes everything. Miyazaki was in the industry for what--fifteen years?--before he got the chance to direct his first feature film. For him, it was a very long struggle. It's Hayao Miyazaki and Isao Takahata who have made the Ghibli name good, not the other way around. The problem is that they are both the real deal; they really are among the finest living directors in the world, let alone anime. Selling Ghibli on the record of its individual artists is one thing. Selling it as a label, detached from that record, is another matter entirely. |
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poiznelf
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Weird... I thought that Studio Ghibli wasn't a name of a film school. I hope this is Goro's first and last Studio Ghibli film until he has proven himself a competent director. (which may or may not happen)
Personally I don't care if it's true to the source material or not. If it's a good movie, it's a good movie. A good director knows what to keep and what to change for the sake of the movie. See Lord Of The Rings, X-Men 1+2, etc. |
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Wolverine Princess
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Okay, Zac, I'm watching Only Yesterday right now, and I guess I should admit defeat. I'm in about 3/4 of it, and I find the flashbacks to the main character's childhood much more interesting than her current life on the farm. I'm enjoying the movie very much, but I can't really sympathize with the main character as an adult. Like you said, can understand her character, but I can't relate to her. (Personally, I find camping and doing anything farm-related excruciating. I guess I'm a true blue "city girl".) Aside from all that, I do like the movie. It's charming and cute. The only thing that really bugged me was when her dad spoiler[smacked her so hard a button on her dress flew off. I don't know what they call that in Japan, but that's defiantly child abuse over here.]
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halochief_90
Posts: 466 Location: Canada |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/opp/faq.html#father By the way, while Ghibli's movies are highly popular, I don't see many ANN users using their characters as avatars. Besides myself I could only find one Pazu, two Totoro, one Kiki, one Conan, and that's it. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Ahem |
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dormcat
Encyclopedia Editor
Posts: 9902 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan, ROC |
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Ahahahaha. Silly me. Your proletarian kitten was so memorable that I almost forgot you had changed your avatar. |
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Pop-Art Samurai
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Nonsense, the story's not a mess. It's just told in a very non-western way. What made Hero interesting was that the parts of it that didn't happen are almost as important as what actually did. It also has, or so I'm told, some passing similarities to Rashomon, a film by Akira Kurosawa.
Ok, so from what I hear Gedo Senki is a movie for an older audience as well. Big deal. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I didn't think Gedo Senki was necessarily aimed at younger audiences. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Well, I think that might be a tad unfair. I feel pretty much the same way about Only Yesterday now (at 26) than I did when I was 16 (when I first saw it). Regret and longing for an ideal are fairly common, although you're right that they do tend to be more common with age. But I think there is definitely a certain personality type that would get this film far more than others -- especially if you still have issues with your own childhood. It would almost certainly speak to you, if that were the case. |
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halochief_90
Posts: 466 Location: Canada |
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Pleroma
Posts: 443 Location: Eromanga island |
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I must say I feel sorry for Ursula Le Guin, first There was that sci-fi channel (i think) Earthsea mini-series that butchered it horribly (and made everyone white Oo) and now apparently a poorly made and unfaithful animated adaptation rears its head.
I don't really understand how this project came about, I mean, it would seem like a big thing and hiring an unprooven director simply because he is the son of a famous one seems like a bizzare choice. Its not like Miyazaki has stopped making movies and surely there are dozens of directors with a quality portfolio who would kill for a chance at a Ghibli feature. |
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