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NEWS: Funimation Sends out Cease & Desist Letters For Multiple Anime

Don't bother trying to talk with Dumb Ass Anime Fans. They would lie down and die for FUNi.
Companies care little to nothing about current fans of a series, what they are going after billy bob and sarah jones down the street from you that have never heard of the series.

I don't disagree with Tempest that fansubbing is illegal in the first place and the companies have more resources in their arsenal. However, no one's been able (to my knowledge) to come up with proof that X downloads of Y episodes of Series **** leads to Z dollars in lost profits. And though I'm no legal expert, I would think that that kind of evidence would be necessary to set an amount of punitive damages.

A nice package of flowers, with one rose head cut, with a note "Stop Fansubs." Should get the point across.

BeyonderZ wrote:

Don't bother trying to talk with Dumb Ass Anime Fans. They would lie down and die for FUNi. Companies care little to nothing about current fans of a series, what they are going after billy bob and sarah jones down the street from you that have never heard of the series.

In addition to this being not true, what does this have to do with anything?

BeyonderZ wrote:

Don't bother trying to talk with Dumb Ass Anime Fans. They would lie down and die for FUNi. Companies care little to nothing about current fans of a series, what they are going after billy bob and sarah jones down the street from you that have never heard of the series.

In addition to this being not true, what does this have to do with anything?

Or were you agreeing with me by restating my point?

indrik wrote:

Or were you agreeing with me by restating my point?

Yes, I was. And yes, "Violator" is a word, unless 3,000,000+ search results also bring up made-up words

At that point, the violator (Is that a word? I think I just made something up...)

Abarenbo Shogun wrote:

A nice package of flowers, with one rose head cut, with a note "Stop Fansubs." Should get the point across.

A katana in a box with a little note that says, "cut it out..."

lol.

cardcaptor_yue wrote:

on their anime club websites they actually mention fansubsas a way to go

Source? I've checked www.operationanime.com and see nothing of the sort.

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they shouldn't have to step in unitl they have such authority to do so.

If you know for sure that they don't then you have inside sources no-one else does.

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FANSUBS ATTRACT attention to the works and spark interests, Full Metal Alchemist would not have gone this far I feel if it wasn't for fansubbers getting people interested first

AGAIN, SOURCE? I've yet to see conclusive proof either way.

I had always thought that when it came to fansubs, that the originating Japanese studios generally don't come into conflict with online fansubbers because they tend to honor the rights of the originating studios and that the JS's usually appreciate the additional attention to their varying anime shows.

Obviously, their threat didn't mean much as all of School Rumble has been subbed (the C&D came before the second season ever aired) and one group that recieved a C&D for Gankutsuou just ignored it, and Media Factory hasn't done anything else. I'm sure there are other series that they had the rights to that have been fansubbed as well.

They are also one of the slowest compoanies at release any infromation about an anime or just releasing them period. The best example would have to be Negima and Tsubasa Chronicle. I belive they both got licensed around the same time +/- a few weeks but Negima has just been released to DVD and we still don't know jack about Tusbasa.

This also isn't 1992 anymore, so the argument that the anime business needs fansubbers is specious. What they need are people to buy (not pirate) their titles.

Despite arguments to the contrary, fansubs do have a helpful impact on American commercial releases. Shows that are common and popular within America's fansub community regularly become successful American commercial DVD releases; shows that see American release without advance support from the fan community are rarely successful. In fact, I can't think of a single anime series that has become a major hit on American DVD that was not common in the fansub community. American consumers buy what they've seen or heard of, and avoid anime that they've not heard of or seen before. The only anime titles available on commercial American DVD that had not been available in the fansub community prior to their commercial release are ones that have not been very commercially successful in America. A few examples include Corrector Yui, Time Bokan, Tobe! Isami, Miami Guns, Tennamonya Voyagers, and Makasete Iruka. It's possible for anime productions to be licensed for American release during pre-production, and it's possible for American licensors to pick up obscure shows that they know of, but which the American fan community isn't familiar with. But as a general rule, regardless of quality, shows that have little or no name recognition in America's fan community prior to their American release don't sell well in America.