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INTEREST: Tow Ubukata Talks About Upcoming Prison Memoir


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GordanHam



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:53 pm Reply with quote
chronos02 wrote:
It's interesting how people believe that this man really hit his wife, when it's pretty much known that many of the supposed domestic violence charges among relatively famous people tend to be false and are staged to extort money, annoy the other party, or even just to piss off the other. What's worse is that the public system allows this, moreso in the Japanese system, where a simple report is mostly enough to sentence the other party to jail, however this doesn't seem to work in reverse, and by this I mean men reporting their wives for domestic violence.

This might not mean much, but working as I am in a lobby, and one that focuses exclusively in these kinds of issues, I can certify that most, if not all, the evidence is fabricated, twisted, and in many times done after the facts, just to abuse the system and "win". And this goes bothways, from the wife that reports the husband, to the husband that defends himself in court (and viceversa). What's even more interesting is that a lot of the falsified and fabricated evidence is done by already-known-to-be innocent defendants (since most recorded everything, kept logs, took daily pictures, etc.) that have to do so because their real evidence cannot be used in court because the system is flawed.


When I read these kinds of news, I can only feel sorry for the defendant party, since they're either innocent, or did something on a completely different scale (in a good sense) compared to what was reported and he or she is being judged for. And yes, there are some real cases out there, but there're so few that they can even be considered outlayers.


I found your comment very interesting and it provided a lot of information that was interesting as well, as long you as a source are to be trusted. It does make me a little uncomfortable though that even somebody that has experience like you doesn't really consider both sides of the situation until their last sentence though. I get that fraudulent charges happen often, but just looking at your own distribution of time to each side, it makes it obvious you are coming into the situation with a bias.

The whole situation with this guy makes me pretty uncomfortable because there honestly is no solid answer. In the end it is up to people's own judgement from the evidence. So, you have a case of a no-name wife coming to the police with a punched face and a broken tooth and getting her moderately successful husband arrested, and then after over a week she does not retract her statement and admit to lying, but simply drops her charges. I think that is what people really should base there judgement off, the individual facts from this individual case.

So yeah, I am of the mind to think that the wife was beat by her husband and then dropped the charges, not because she wasn't gonna get them sweet lawsuit earnings she was rubbing her hands together for, but probably because she isn't a breadwinner like her husband and is scared to be separated from that life support. This especially seems more plausible to me when the other side of the coin, that he didn't hit her, means that he is married to a person who is so crazy as to bash their own face and break a tooth for no reason other to spite her spouse.
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:59 pm Reply with quote
Too bad it doesn't make you interesting, Ubakata.
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Lynx Amali





PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:45 pm Reply with quote
angelmcazares wrote:
Hopefully he learned to be a less crappy writer while in prison.


Psycho Pass 2 is the odd one out. They couldn't do anything major because the movie was already a thing.

He's great to fantastic when he's given free reign. See all the Fafner stuff he's worked on, Heroic Age and Mardock Scramble.
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bemused Bohemian



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:27 pm Reply with quote
KH91 wrote:
This seems pretty juicy, and by juicy, I'm really interested(I already was before). If I ever go to jail, I'll find me a senpai really quickly.


For better or worse what you'll find in jail, before exercising the process of posting bond through a bail bondsman with authorities to get released temporarily while awaiting a future court determination of your fate, is both interesting company and a new prejudice toward what purpose correctional systems serve. Perhaps you'll luck out like I did, decades ago, and get placed on the floor wearing uni-color pajama attire, foot thongs, a mattress in an overcrowded cell with the following accoutrements indigenous of metropolitan detention centers that border a major drug exporting country across the river: 8 extra attendees too many, 1 open chemical toilet, 1 pay phone (out calls only once a day per person), 1 TV hanging from the ceiling frozen on the QVC channel with Spanish audio only.

I cannot recall any other time in life the profound surreal joy being situated in an austere room listening to "stereophonic" pimps as I had one situated each side of me during that overnight stay; one individual was Anglo, the other was not. The Anglo was in for the nth time for spousal abuse while the Mexican claimed he was awaiting seed money via 1 member of his stable of for hire gal pals to post bond for drug possession. Sometimes the conversation between them (remember, I'm situated in the middle of this) was comical while other times I had to wonder which of the 3 of us was the more maniacal thanks to testosterone.

As I recall I was the oldest there in that particular time-out center. Most were early-twenties, a few in their thirties, plus a gaggle of teens. Of that collection of 16 one was awaiting a court date still 6 months away rumored to be in for a gang-related murder rap, three were gang members from across the river caught dealing drugs awaiting their court date while the remainder were awaiting their court date and fate for miscellaneous crimes to Society (shop-lifting, assault),

That was my one and only time in life being detained for anything by law enforcement beyond 30 minutes (speeding ticket, illegally parked). After posting bond (far longer to accomplish when incarcerated than shown on TV) I was escorted down to the first floor by a jailer to retrieve my possessions and money. I recall his statement that went something like this: "I don't know what you did out there to rate this (incarceration) but you sure aren't the type". Ah, validation. In fact, so memorable I have not been back near jail, any jail, since.

I could wind on about the experience but I won't. From what I saw during those 20 hours of uber-structured "time-out" I'd suggest you do your very best to stay far, far away from any endeavor that might put you in there.
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manapear



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:09 am Reply with quote
Vent wrote:
Gotta love when someone manages turning beating their wife into a self-promotion opportunity.

And by love, I mean the other thing


GordanHam wrote:
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This, to both of those.

I definitely believe in cases where people fake abuse, but most domestic abuse cases aren't faked, and I doubt in any country they are. Also, having seen in some of the more realistic manga of how the police treat women, or even looking at real cases and the general silliness they do, I fully believe he did hit her; and it probably wasn't taken all that seriously either.

Either way, he's turning this case into profit for him, and that's gross. It's fascinating to have a look into Japanese prison, but it sucks to have it come from someone like him.
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Agent355



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:55 am Reply with quote
There is already a manga diary about the mangaka's time in prison, Doing Time
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Renasviel



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:23 am Reply with quote
EighteenSky wrote:
Like others here I am very interested in reading this if someone translates it which I hope they do.

Vent wrote:
Gotta love when someone manages turning beating their wife into a self-promotion opportunity.

And by love, I mean the other thing

Oh, didn't know you had evidence that proved those allegations as true...

You're right, her injuries must have just happened naturally. Of course, the police must irrationally hate him, and in a horrid conspiracy, he was sent into jail completely innocent of all crime, and they had absolutely no evidence to incarcerate him. I feel for him, really. It's tragic.
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:23 am Reply with quote
Agent355 wrote:
There is already a manga diary about the mangaka's time in prison, Doing Time


So he isn't even being original. The more this goes on, the more the guy just seems like an exploitative hack trying to make a quick buck.
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TarsTarkas



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:46 pm Reply with quote
Sounds like the same old story.

Woman gets beat up by her husband or boyfriend, calls police fearing for her life, man gets arrested. After a bit of time, the woman decides she doesn't want her man in jail. Whether it is for love, fear, or some other reason, is basically irrelevant.

Is Tow Ubukata really a celebrity or worth a lot of money, for the false accusation narrative to have any ground.

From what I understand most people in the industry are not rich or mainstream celebrities.
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