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leafy sea dragon
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
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Location: Another Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:55 pm
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belvadeer wrote: | About time we got a sweet KHIII trailer with audible English voices. Disney characters don't sound right in Japanese. |
Yeah, I'm used to hearing them in English, and it just sounds really weird, considering some of them sound really, really different in Japanese.
Also, that's some pretty weird use of Wreck-It Ralph. I was expecting him to, well, wreck enemies with his fists, not a bunch of blocks he constructs.
CatSword wrote: | I feel like the Steam thing might've just been one rogue employee making decisions he or she wasn't authorized to make, perhaps against some games he or she didn't like, which is why it was inconsistent and Steam was quick to correct it. |
My guess is some sort of pressure from somewhere that will likely lead to them losing money for one reason or another. Steam exists for one purpose only: So Valve can make money. Any decisions made by Valve directly is so it can make more money or so it can avoid losing money. As a big company that gets a lot of exposure to the general public, it's very vulnerable to getting caught in the middle of a media stink or scandal, and it has the most to lose from that.
If you make a game that can easily be seen as offensive or inappropriate, you're better off looking for a smaller distributor. I don't know if they exist or not, as I've never looked into it, but it's basically how the porn industry has been doing things for decades. Surely there must be a smaller distributor out there that specializes in these fanservice games. Because it's smaller, it keeps a lower profile, and because it specializes in this sort of game, its reputation wouldn't change.
(And if you've made a fanservice-centered game and intend to strike it big into the mainstream using Steam, you are much too idealistic.)
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wastrel
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:25 pm
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Heh, I think I might (only might) have figured the Valve thing out.
Apple was going to let Valve put an app on their App Store for iOS (and I think tvOS) that would let you stream your Steam games from your PC/Steam machine to your iPhone. Apple just a bit ago revoked permission for Valve to do this, siting "business conflicts".
I bet someone just recently realized that some Steam games have what some people would call animated porn in them. Apple doesn't want porn on their phones (although they realize that they can't stop a web browser from accessing it). Especially animated porn games that (some would say) are clearly aimed at poor innocent children!
Valve probably tried to salvage the whole thing by promising to clean up all the games, but Apple eventually decided it wasn't work the risk of having animated boobies on an iPhone screen. Now Valve has lost all the work on their app, and they have to try to calm down the game developers they've frightened.
Just a guess on my part, mind you. I don't really know.
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CatSword
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:42 pm
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wastrel wrote: | I bet someone just recently realized that some Steam games have what some people would call animated porn in them. Apple doesn't want porn on their phones (although they realize that they can't stop a web browser from accessing it). Especially animated porn games that (some would say) are clearly aimed at. |
If this was genuinely Apple's problem with the app, I would be sending screencap after screencap of borderline and straight-up pornographic content that can be accessed via the Netflix, Hulu, HBO Now, FunimationNow, and Crunchyroll apps.
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Calico
Joined: 05 Jan 2013
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 12:14 am
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Good write-up on the steam debacle. Also, your cat is super cute!
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Chester McCool
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 2:28 am
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This is why I'm glad Steam never caught on in Japan. I swear Japan is the only market you can find physical PC games anymore.
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 5:19 am
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Quote: | People love those Touhous, yes? |
Yes (says the person with the Touhou avatar).
Also, that's a cute cat!
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AiddonValentine
Joined: 07 Aug 2006
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:21 am
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CatSword wrote: |
If this was genuinely Apple's problem with the app, I would be sending screencap after screencap of borderline and straight-up pornographic content that can be accessed via the Netflix, Hulu, HBO Now, FunimationNow, and Crunchyroll apps. |
In all honesty it's probably just another extension of Valve's ineptitude with smaller companies. I know a lot of indie devs have become increasingly frustrated with Steam, many saying they've actually turned WAY more profits on Nintendo's eShop.
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LaytonPuzzle27
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 6:40 pm
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Question did the games that Valve removed have a age rating or not because I have seen some games on digital shops like GOG and Steam that have no ESRB, PEGI, CERO, USK, and ACB label on them. If those have an age rating on them would they have not been removed?
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Polycell
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 7:50 pm
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There doesn't seem to have been any rhyme or reason - especially since the notices were generic form letters. If it was the result of third party action, then it could've simply been somebody's list of most offensive games; if it was simply a rogue employing acting without any impetus, then it's likely that these games just wound up in front of the person's face at the same time.
But all that said, all of them appear to be unrated.
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KabaKabaFruit
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:54 pm
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Chrono1000 wrote: | We will see increasing demands for censorship since an increasing number of people think that if something offends them than it shouldn't exist. Inclusion is the 21st century word for censorship and regardless of what it is called the fundamental concept behind it is the same. Considering that we have seen this happen with Crunchyroll last month and Valve this month it will be interesting to see what else happens this year. |
Self-fulfilling prophecy, thy name is Chrono1000.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:07 pm
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Chester McCool wrote: | This is why I'm glad Steam never caught on in Japan. I swear Japan is the only market you can find physical PC games anymore. |
Which I find interesting as I'm pretty sure physical PC games are still a thing in most other countries.
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Chrono1000
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 7:40 pm
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KabaKabaFruit wrote: | Self-fulfilling prophecy, thy name is Chrono1000. |
I notice that you didn't disagree with my statement that inclusion is the 21st century word for censorship. As for my user name I got it from Chrono Trigger and you start the game in 1000 AD.
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