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We discussed this & Joshua agreed he was aware most manga readers don't want scans-they want hard copies. The concept of building a collection.

That's no more true of manga than it is of anime.

I think I can best explain the relevance of his statements with an analogy:

It's like having a law that says the people running a flea market aren't personally responsible for checking that the items being distributed in said market are not stolen or counterfeit or contraband or whatever. They're just offering a service and aren't responsible for the people using it, be they vendors or customers.
However, if it was established that the people running the flea market were actively condoning, encouraging and participating in those illegal activities, they could hardly hide behind a "see no evil" defence. They'd be guilty of a criminal conspiracy or of being accessories to the crimes in question.

Incidentally, you should be aware that popular, political and media opposition to attacks on the Pirate Bay probably had rather more to do with the idea that the US government and / or US corporations were behind them than with any particular tendancy towards piracy in Sweden. Think of it as the "Bush effect".

Sorry but it's actually a lot more true of manga. Although CCSYueh has sort of missed the reason why. They do both have fairly equal collection value, but most people also prefer to read an actual physical manga book. They don't like reading scanned pages online. However with anime, you're getting the exact same thing. I suppose you have to watch it on your computer screen instead of TV but then you might watch it there anyway plus you can always burn it to DVDs. The differences are far greater with manga.

You're never going to convince me that sites like TPB are in the right but I long ago accepted that my side has already lost the war. It's not about winning anymore - it's about slowing the rate of the collapse in the hopes that somebody can come up with another way of doing business before there is no industry left to save (or, more likely, no industry left worth saving given the grot they'd have to put out in order to monetise a free-to-view anime market).

I'm sorry if someone already brought this up but uploading and downloading film and music is illegal according to the MPAA's website and the RIAA's website. Is anime any different? If this has already been answered please don't answer that question.

I'm sorry if someone already brought this up but uploading and downloading film and music is illegal according to the MPAA's website and the RIAA's website. Is anime any different? If this has already been answered please don't answer that question.

Thanks!

I'm not sure that I believe this idea that somehow if the legit DVDs of a series are available in North America very close to the Japanese release that fansubs will stop. I think this would definitely increase the cash that licensing companies in North America receive but i don't think it would necessarily stop fansubs.

Edit II: @ Ohoni your scenario in your post responding to mine was a little incorrect. Once an American licensor pays the necessary fines and completes all the requirements, it no longer has any financial obligation Japanese companies. ALL of the revenue from sales of R1 DVD goes to the American companies, which can be used to pay for expenses and invest in more production or licensing. Of course Japan still can intervene in production and may require additional compensation, which may or or may not lead to a more authentic or enjoyable product for the U.S. but they have a right to have some say in how their creation is being adapted.

I do think that in future it should go directly back to the Japanese, based more on aftermarket profit sharing, rather than upfront liscense buys.

My point was that if you buy a US DVD then a portion of that money goes into covering the debt they incurred covering the liscensing fee that they'd previously paid to the Japanese company, and in return, to cover the fees for their next project. It doesn't go back directly to the Japanese company, but it does in spirit, in the bigger picture.

I'm sorry if someone already brought this up but uploading and downloading film and music is illegal according to the MPAA's website and the RIAA's website. Is anime any different? If this has already been answered please don't answer that question.

Thanks!

Also, I wouldn't rely on wikipedia copypasting or any statute citing that people do here on this forum either. Your first day in law school you learn that a word in a statute can mean something completely different then what your dictionary says it does =)

“Copies” are material objects, other than phonorecords, in which a work is fixed by any method now known or later developed, and from which the work can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. The term “copies” includes the material object, other than a phonorecord, in which the work is first fixed.