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mirax
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Thanks so much for posting this. What a very interesting event, and I'm liking that you say it seems so well staffed and organized. I would very much like to experience an event like this sometime. Maybe when I actually make it to Japan, I'll go.
This was a well written article and you definitely kept a good open mind while writing it. Thanks so much for the fascinating insight into the female fandom 
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Generic #757858
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One thing that I've never understood dojinshi is why do the copyright holders allow other people to make money using their characters and material? Are Japanese copyright laws more lax or is it just a cultural thing?
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hanachan01
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"Supernatural", like the CW show with Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles? Or manga in the "Supernatural" genre? Because if it's the first one, I'm really surprised that it would be popular in Japan.... |
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rinmackie
 Posts: 1040 Location: in a van! down by the river! |
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In response to Generic, yes, copyright law is more lax in Japan. The legitimate manga companies are aware of the fan comic scene and use them as a sort of focus group to help them to determine what's popular. Also, it's not unusual for a fan comic creator to become a legitimate professional. The all female mangakas known as CLAMP started out this way. Not only that, some professionals also sometimes make their own fan comics. I believe the guy that created Excel Saga has done this.
On another note, Nintendo once went after a woman who created Pokemon porn comics. She was punished but from what I heard it actually ended up making Nintendo look bad. |
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Annf
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The law isn't lax at all; in fact it's stricter than some countries (Japanese copyright law has no Fair Use concept, meaning, for example, a copyright holder has the right to have you take down even a single screen shot used for a review. As for the effect this causes, take a look at the drastic difference in the number of images on Wikipedia Japanese vs. Wikipedia English.) But it's still up to copyright holders to pursue it, so as long as they allow the doujin scene, it'll continue. Nintendo (as mentioned) as well as Disney and Konami are known for aggressively cracking down. There was also a famous incident with a Doraemon doujin book that was shut down because it was selling "too many" copies. |
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vapwaazu
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I'm pretty sure it was for the former because it had a picture of two guys and one of the titles for the event was "Brotherly Love". So yeah... I can scan the flyer when I get home later today (pretty sure I still have it ^^;; ). |
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Hi no Neko
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Awesome! Heh, definitely sounds a lot calmer than an American con. And the privacy thing is true . . . even on personal blogs, all the faces are blurred out. It's a little eerie, since other than that, they look exactly like American vacation/party/family photos.
I've always kinda wanted to sell stuff at a doujin con . . . I figure my art's good enough, though I'm not sure how my style would be received by the Japanese crowd. x3 And then of course, there's my crippling lack of Japanese-language knowing. Maybe someday I'll have a more fluent friend go there, who i can send some stuff with? x3 |
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maichips
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Great article, Evan! It's nice to have some insight into the behaviors of Japanese fans!
On a side note: Evan, I just realized that you were at Anime Iowa last year, hosting those same Detour panels! Will you be at Anime Iowa this year? |
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nicomorr
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Just wanted to thank you for an informative & well-written article that also dealt carefully & intelligently with the 'problem' of 'porn' & its' importance in the Japanese graphic arts.
When people ask me why I believe Japanese visual story-telling is so superior to that in the West .... one of the things I try to explain is the mass nature of those arts. Every school, every uni, every grouping no-matter-where or how big, has a 'club', a 'manga club' or an 'anime club' or a 'mass modern media club'. And they all draw & write ... it's part of growing up in Japan. So it's not surprising that out of the 'sea of doujin circles' emerge the huge talents we know & love. Your article shows off one area of this very well. And since I've never been to Japan except on short business visits, such writing helps me a lot in understanding the arts I love. Regards, Nico M |
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Jariten
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It all depends on what my bank account says... but considering that I haven't missed AI in the last six years, I don't want to start this year. The squeaky mallet rests for no man 
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vapwaazu
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Well here's the flyers for the events.
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6901/scan0001lbl.jpg Seems I was mistaken for this one, it appears to actually be for Kamen Rider and some other Tokusatsu shows. It's still pretty bizarre 
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5627/scan0002dzk.jpg |
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Ashen Phoenix
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That's really very interesting. I agree. It was so fascinating and informative to learn how different and yet similar the conventions are. Once I'm able, I'm absolutely gonna attend Haru Comic City (or Harucomi, you called it? Wonder if I'd sound stupid saying that, what with my being whiter than Wonderbread and all)  and Comiket. Now I need to find some reliable Jp.-to-Eng translation software so I can read those websites' information!
Right now, though, I'm sure my mom wouldn't be all that happy if I said I wanted to go to one of these events. I'm 19 now, but my relationship with her is so close-knit that I'd hate for her to think badly of me by my purchasing adult-oriented doujinshi (I've only read a few translated ones online which the majority of them were fairly tame, but that rating is by my personal standards so I dunno if she'd feel the same way). 
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yojimboray
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thanks for the article- absolutely fascinating. if there was an anime con with that kind of subdued ambience here in the states, i'd attend one.
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hanachan01
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Thanks! The Tokusatsu one is hilarious- from the ad, it seems like fan fans and the event would be a lot of fun. I'm really amazed that Supernatural has a following Japan like it has here. I'm also pretty shocked that J2 doujinshi is there- I wonder how the Japanese fans get all of the interviews/videos/etc. of the actors that the American fans get. Maybe they are as fervent with their translations there as we are here with anime/manga/J-pop translations. By the way, mind if I post this images on my LiveJournal t oshare with my friends? I'll credit you! |
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; But yeah what the doujinshi-ka said about the workload, all about how much you wanna put into the books.  |
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