Forum - View topicNEWS: Magical DoReMi to Re-Air on The CW4Kids on Saturdays
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m3g4t0ky0
Posts: 25 Location: North Carolina, USA |
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Now that I think about it, that's a possibility. I haven't kept up on the downturn of 4Kids lately. |
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TheHTRO
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I don't understand this at all! What did we (not just the fans but all viewers) do to deserve this? I thought that license expired. Toei pulled the One Piece license, but not this one? Furthermore, I understand 4Kids had Pretty Cure at one point, but that license either lapsed or was revoked with no production (thankfully). This is the worst. I had thought that Toei had pulled ALL of 4Kids' licenses. I was hoping Toei could give us Oja Majo Doremi (in which "Doremi" is the name os a single character: and the main character at that!) themselves, just like they (Toei) did with the aforementioned Pretty Cure. Did 4Kids find some kind of "loophole" in the contract, or was the license still with them, (4Kids) all this time? |
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LunarianWarrior
Posts: 57 Location: NYC |
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Maybe they had it for a long time or renewed it for other episodes that never were on TV but are on online? I have no idea...New to this whole thing but yea I do wonder, what happened to Pretty Cure? It's in english but not by 4Kids. |
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D Dubbs
Posts: 72 |
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Yes, it was still with them, they've been streaming the whole series online for the past 3 years or so. Toei and 4Kids seem to still have a decent relationship, after all, they just licensed Tai Chi Chasers, a Toei property. |
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Fronzel
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I liked Doremi so much I watched 4kids' version after finishing the fansub.
It wasn't that bad. They only edited it to death a few times (including that one episode that they just didn't adapt), and I thought the English version of the singing witch was actually better since they gave her lyrics instead of just having her vocalize. |
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MangaNeko
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CW4Kids seems dedicated to having the 7am-8am hour focus on female viewers. For the last 30+ weeks 2 episodes of Winx Club aired during that hour, which all leads up to the AUG 14th premeire of Season 4 for Winx Club. Not sure what 4Kids plans after this or if we could get a re-airing of Tokyo Mew Mew.
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sailorsarah08
Posts: 471 Location: Houston, Texas |
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Cardcaptor Sakura was successful, and I'd imagine Lyrical Nanoha did alright, though it's aimed at an older audience. |
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grooven
Posts: 1425 Location: Canada |
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If properly marketed it would work. 4 kids fails at that. Doremi is one o0f the best magical girl shows that was created. It is sad that peole will be subjected to the bad dub version. If it would be half decent we wouldn't have a problem.
I fell in love with it in sharp season when it was just starting to air. |
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Hika Yagami
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[quote="m3g4t0ky0"][quote="Primus"]
[quote="m3g4t0ky0"]Now if only they'd re-run Tokyo Mew Mew. [/quote] Pretty sure they lost the license to that.[/quote] Now that I think about it, that's a possibility. I haven't kept up on the downturn of 4Kids lately.[/quote] I e-mailed them about 3 years ago and they said that they lost the rights, so there's nothing they can do about it. So it wasn't really a matter of poor ratings. They just lost the rights. Here's a screencap of the e-mail I recieved: http://i7.tinypic.com/6uqrazk.jpg |
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Chrno2
Posts: 6171 Location: USA |
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What? Now I did try to watch this a bit when my niece was around. Y'know these stations need to get their act together. Either they want to show the stuff or they don't. Because to be honest I really don't think they give a sh*t about airing stuff anymore. Especially localized anime. And some kids aren't all that interested. They don't put it on at time when they might be willing to watch. And when the ratings drop they want to ax it quicker.
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enurtsol
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Oh well, as they say at Disney, what's old is new again for every new generation.
Toei cannot just "pull" a contract out of anything, unless the other party has violated said contract. Otherwise, Toei would be the one in violation and the only thing they would pull is a lawsuit out their ass. So yeah, 4Kids always had the rights, and no loophole (in which case, it'd be Toei filing the lawsuit to challenge said loophole). You can't just go around breaking contracts just because you don't like the other party.
Kids aren't as obsessed with TV shows as they used to. You'd think that's a good thing, but they have other distractions to obsess over now. |
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kakoishii
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CCS successful? Maybe mildly, but not Sailor Moon level success. Cardcaptors was handled poorly, as has most of the few magical girl series brought over post Sailor Moon. Although to Cardcaptors defense, it was KidsWB that ruined it by only airing half the episodes and editing it to hell to aim towards boys despite the fact it was clearly a series for girls. Nonaha never had a tv airing so that already counts it out for being all that successful, maybe it had okay dvd sales I dunno. The thing of it is, is that Sailor Moon's success wasn't a fluke like everyone (i.e. dubbing companies) seems to think. Say what you want about Dic's dub, but they knew what they were doing. They aimed it towards little girls and they made sure to bring merchandise over so that they could even further hook their audience with all the toys. Tell me how many magical girl shows had as much merchandise brought over? Not to mention Sailor Moon had an awesome tv slot, it would air right after elementary kids got out of school thus ensuring the majority of their target audience would see it. A magical girl show airing at 7AM wouldn't stand a chance against all that. Too bad Japan pulled ADV's dub of mermaid melody because it seemed as though ADV was going balls to the wall to get Sailor Moon success with it, but it never came to be. |
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enurtsol
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Sailor Moon was syndicated (a system now dead at network TV), so it was up to the local affiliates to pick it up and when to show it. At my then local FOX station, it was broadcasted at 5am as the very first show of the day (the station closes broadcast 2am-5am). Sailor Moon partly succeeded because it was the first one of the shoujo anime to be on wide N. American TV (it was bigger in Canada - recall the Canadian Barenaked Ladies song), and the timing when anime was the next shiny new thing coming up in America (and oh, and it has those "boom anime babes that make me think the wrong thing" of course ). |
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Chrno2
Posts: 6171 Location: USA |
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Yeah, it's true. Not that I'm knocking it as I believe kids shouldn't spend too much time in front of the TV. Buy again at the same time because they have other distractions it makes it harder to try and introduce new shows that could be marketable. Or might introduce generations to something new. I just made that point about them not being interested because I feel that it's the case. Which will often kill a project before it gets started. Also it seems that many of the shows who's targeted audience are boys is more marketable. Look at Yugioh and some of the other crap. Although Yugioh is far from crap. Girl shows aren't. Sailor Moon might have been the last good thing for awhile. But all the new stuff has been killed despite what ratings it might have gotten. But shows like 'The Winx Club' managed to survive and had marketing value. It's just a shame that many of the magical girls shows just aren't getting their due. |
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Teriyaki Terrier
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I completely agree with you. Though I don't like the fact people will lose their jobs, for the all the butchering and over editing, 4kids truly does need to close down. Not only did they ruin One Piece, but they have ruined practically every show they licensed. In fact, most the shows were ruined so badly, the show isn't even watchable anymore, with all the constant and pointless edits. Honestly, 4kids needs to close so maybe other companies can rescue these over edited, ruined beyond belief as well as butchered as well. Funimation saved One Piece, despite the fact 4kids ruined that series so much, it was nearly ruined beyond repair. |
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