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NEWS: Funimation Sues 1,427 John Does Over Ip Man


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Kit-Tsukasa



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:26 am Reply with quote
As far as I'm concerned, Funimation is trying to draw government/media attention to the issue regarding piracy in the entertainment industry. Since Funimation is more involved in the "international" business they already have the short end of the stick and are more desperate in keeping their company afloat unlike others that produce the movies in the US.

I don't think this is an issue of whether Funimation learning their lesson or not anymore. I find it unrealistic that they would repeat this same "mistake" intentionally. Alternatively, they may be thinking "hey this is a non-animated title, maybe this lawsuit will actually go through properly unlike One Piece," and eventually work their way up the totem pole where anime eventually gets the same treatment. I find the latter issue a dumb idea though.

On the other hand, if Funimation is going into this without learning their mistake and/or using the latter example I described above, I think they're just shooting themselves in the foot at this point. They're clearly the dominant retailer and licensing company in the US anime market at the moment, and I don't see why they're not capitalizing on it anymore. Heck, all the titles they picked up in the past few years have been backlogged in production while companies like Aniplex USA and Sentai/Section 23 are gradually increasing their library. If anything, Funimation is losing control of the market and becoming too greedy (or already have). Aniplex is beginning to gain control of big name titles now while Funimation continues to blindly choose. Sentai/Section 23 picks up the scraps but hey it works at the moment.
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tuxedocat



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:30 am Reply with quote
I'm guessing that Mr. Stone works on a contingency basis, and the cost to Funimation is basically the filing fees? Maybe these mass lawsuits are necessary to discovery in some way.

This seems to be Mr. Stone's specific business. I would guess it is fairly profitable, or he wouldn't keep doing it. It's a win-win for all the business interests concerned if that is the case. Mr. Stone gets his (possibly considerable) cut, and Funimation keeps their licensing partners pacified.


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Ojamajo LimePie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:40 am Reply with quote
kinbalk wrote:
@ Richard J.

The porn lawyer thing is most likely a joke on the fact that Evan Stone is also the name of a former adult male actor. Calm down alittle on that one.


No, the lawyer actually worked for porn companies. One of his tactics for getting people to pay up for copyright infringement was threatening to publicly out the person being sued as gay if they didn't settle out of court. There were records showing downloads of gay porn that Stone could use as blackmail. I'd say that's pretty immoral.
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maxxjulie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:51 am Reply with quote
Leg wrote:
treatment wrote:
Leg wrote:
treatment wrote:
you know, I'm confused by the article.

the graphic/thumbnail uses the image from the rather bogus Ip Man 3 "The Legend is born".

which is not actually THE actual Ip Man movie released/distributed by Mandarin Films.

that Ip Man 3 "The Legend is born" thingy was probably just name-hopping on the more famous Ip Man movie. I don't see any actual connection between them or even with the actual Ip Man 2 sequel.

Is Funi connected somehow with Mandarin Films?

Could somebody clarify this confusion?


animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-05-31/funimation-sues-1427-john-does-over-ip-man

Funimation licensed The Legend is Born: Ip Man, as the article states.


My confusion is that Ip Man is a well-known movie (prolly trademarked or something) that is definitely not the same movie that Funi is suing over with just based on the ANN-article titling.

Reckon ANN needs to re-title their article to avoid further confusion.


According to the Funimation press release, the movie is the "prequel to the successful IP MAN franchise." The title of the article seems perfectly fitting, as Funimation is suing over Ip man (specific movie not mentioned), then goes onto to specify in the actual article which Ip man movie is in question.

IMO, there's no confusion to be had.


i thought the same thing the other poster did, that it was over the first Ip Man movie. It's a really famous and perhaps best martial arts movie ever made. The one they are suing over isn't anything close to it. It's got Ip Man in the title, but it's mediocre and probably didn't make Funimation much money at all. Hence the lawsuits to make more of a profit. Losers.
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Otaku Teahouse



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:06 am Reply with quote
Leg wrote:
treatment wrote:
Leg wrote:
treatment wrote:
you know, I'm confused by the article.

the graphic/thumbnail uses the image from the rather bogus Ip Man 3 "The Legend is born".

which is not actually THE actual Ip Man movie released/distributed by Mandarin Films.

that Ip Man 3 "The Legend is born" thingy was probably just name-hopping on the more famous Ip Man movie. I don't see any actual connection between them or even with the actual Ip Man 2 sequel.

Is Funi connected somehow with Mandarin Films?

Could somebody clarify this confusion?


animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-05-31/funimation-sues-1427-john-does-over-ip-man

Funimation licensed The Legend is Born: Ip Man, as the article states.


My confusion is that Ip Man is a well-known movie (prolly trademarked or something) that is definitely not the same movie that Funi is suing over with just based on the ANN-article titling.

Reckon ANN needs to re-title their article to avoid further confusion.


According to the Funimation press release, the movie is the "prequel to the successful IP MAN franchise." The title of the article seems perfectly fitting, as Funimation is suing over Ip man (specific movie not mentioned), then goes onto to specify in the actual article which Ip man movie is in question.

IMO, there's no confusion to be had.


I don't know how many times I have to repeat this, but I have to because Funi has misunderstood what the movie is and made a misleading ad for it. This Ip Man movie is in no way associated with the Donnie Yen Ip Man movies. It is not a "3" nor is it a prequel. Sure, it is about the early life of the same person that Donnie Yen's movies are based on, but this is a completely different movie than those. This one was made to capitalize on the Donnie Yen movies' success and was released about the same time as Ip Man 2.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:00 am Reply with quote
the title of the article maybe fits very well indeed since it is about "intellectual property man", ie Funimation lawyer... Wink)
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Daemonblue



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:02 am Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:
$150,000 between 1,427 people. Does that mean they're only looking for $105 per person? Someone could probably settle out of court for less than a day's pay and not have to worry about it.

Emerje


I believe they meant $150,000 per person, as current copyright laws in the US allow for damages between $750 and $150,000 per infringement, which is why you see ridiculous rulings such as that one mother having been ordered to pay $1.9m for 24 songs.

In case you're wondering, that plus the "legal extortion" as one British politician put it is why a lot of people see it as an unethical approach. Lest we forget, the tech used to track down these infringers is no too different from that used to blame a fax machine for copyright infringement iirc, it was either that or a photocopier, but one of the two.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:43 am Reply with quote
MaxSouth wrote:
the title of the article maybe fits very well indeed since it is about "intellectual property man", ie Funimation lawyer... Wink)


Try and do a little research first before saying something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yip_Man
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:35 am Reply with quote
Guess they didn't learn after the first time they tried doing something like this.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:25 am Reply with quote
Who cares! It's not anime! Live-action pirates deserve it! We wouldn't blink an eye if that was a Hollywood movie. Laughing
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:42 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
MaxSouth wrote:
the title of the article maybe fits very well indeed since it is about "intellectual property man", ie Funimation lawyer... Wink)


Try and do a little research first before saying something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yip_Man


Try comprehending emoticon signs before saying something.
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MrHatandClogs



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:28 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
Who cares! It's not anime! Live-action pirates deserve it! We wouldn't blink an eye if that was a Hollywood movie. Laughing


Sorry but, you're wrong. Two of my friends have been fined thousands of dollars by Universal Pictures for seeding "Hollywood Movies".
I blinked pretty hard when that happened.

The FUNi thing is, is none of those people probably even knew that this movie was licensed by FUNi.
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mewpudding101
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:38 am Reply with quote
...Not again.
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SaiyanHero16



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:08 am Reply with quote
Why does this sound familiar? I wonder... Rolling Eyes
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kinbalk



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:11 am Reply with quote
Ojamajo LimePie wrote:
kinbalk wrote:
@ Richard J.

The porn lawyer thing is most likely a joke on the fact that Evan Stone is also the name of a former adult male actor. Calm down alittle on that one.


No, the lawyer actually worked for porn companies. One of his tactics for getting people to pay up for copyright infringement was threatening to publicly out the person being sued as gay if they didn't settle out of court. There were records showing downloads of gay porn that Stone could use as blackmail. I'd say that's pretty immoral.



Haha. Well thats for letting me know that. I'd Google that to try and find info on it myself but I'm pretty sure no matter how hardcore the safesearch settings are, I'd end up in a world I don't care to be in.
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