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NEWS: Australia's Madman Ent. Stops Kill La Kill Streams After Leak

Coppelion episode 6 was also leaked from Madman's site before it aired, strangely they didn't mention that though, or take the streams down.

The latest monogatari episode was also leaked before it aired.

rederoin wrote:

The latest monogatari episode was also leaked before it aired.

Well, Daisuki is Aniplex. They can't pull out their Monogatari streams.

Ermat_46 wrote:

rederoin wrote: The latest monogatari episode was also leaked before it aired. Well, Daisuki is Aniplex. They can't pull out their Monogatari streams.

They can hit themselves in the head with hammers if they want to but thankfully they didn't punish themselves or us and streamed it on time as planned.

But file sharing these things early is not the way to do it... talk about making life harder for yourself and others going forward. All for the sake of "first post". Hope it was worth it, enjoy it while you can...

Man, what incredibly impatient jerks --- not just accessing the episode to watch it ahead of time, but going that extra step of pirating it across the web. It hurts the credibility of online streaming, which you'd think they'd be first in line to support.

Gotta love that. Some a-hole who can't wait a day Fs it up for everyone.

yeah thanks 'ephemera' subs for ruining for us Australians.

But file sharing these things early is not the way to do it... talk about making life harder for yourself and others going forward. All for the sake of "first post". Hope it was worth it, enjoy it while you can...

Madman: Oh, the stream leaked? Let's just pull our stream to punish the people who didn't do anything and have nowhere else to watch it, forcing them to pirate it, and then when the stream does return we'll whine about how it's not doing well!

In this day and age, pulling the streams should not be a valid response to a leak.

Here's the metaphor that makes sense to me:

I rent a really expensive luxury car. Then I keep the car in an unlocked garage with the keys on a hook next to the car.
Of course, someone steals the car and drives it off a cliff.
Oh and did I mention that I know I live in a bad neighborhood which has had multiple car thefts in the past?
Guess whose fault it is and who is responsible for the car? Me.
Yeah the car thief should also be caught and prosecuted but that doesn't mean I'm any less financially responsible for that car.

And sameulp, considering that you're running an anime website yourself, I'm surprised that you would hold a point of view that essentially renders the hackers blameless in this situation, just because they're not profiting from it. Are you suggesting that if someone hacked into Animesols and gained access to pledger private payment credentials, that that would be okay, just so long as they didn't profit from it? Unless you're super-confident that your site is completely invulnerable from any and all cyber-attacks, you shouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses. Honestly, the fact that you sound more on the side of the hackers in this situation doesn't make me very comfortable about how you'd respond if you were placed in Madman's shoes yourself. On one level I might appreciate if you took responsibility, but if you were to leave the hackers blameless or even openly thank them for breaking the site's security (i.e. compromising MY personal data), I would be on the frontlines rallying against your company, because that's a very irresponsible position that openly accepts and almost encourages hacker criminal activities that could hurt your customers.

If I wasn't willing to take 100% responsibility for the security of the data, including any episodes uploaded to anime sols, I assure you no Japanese company would work with me at all.
Of course the fact that we don't do simulcasts and don't store any payment credentials like CC info ourselves at all (which is why you have to re-enter it each time) does give me the confidence.

I'm not saying hackers (I hesitate to call them that since it implies having some actual skill...) are doing anyone a favor...
But for every white knight you have 10 people out there who would simply torrent things: That's the nature of the audience, teenagers! If your security is bad, your episodes WILL LEAK. It's not a matter of some bad guy out there taking advantage of you, because there are 1000s of people out there who will upload your content to the internet if you leave it accessible.
People are saying it's the torrenter's fault that Madman had to pull the episodes: but that's like blaming the earthquake for destroying your rickety shack.

FYI, at anime sols all CC info is transmitted to our payment provider (stripe.com) directly from your browser, which simply returns a token for that particular purchase (which we store), the CC info is not stored in our database or server ever. If our server was completely compromised (i.e. root access), it would be possible for someone to spoof the token private key and instruct Stripe to charge registered cards, but... that would just give more money to anime sols which we could refund immediately.
As for our streaming videos, since we use HTML5 they aren't DRMed, but before a video launches it is uploaded to amazon S3, in a private bucket, with obfuscated file name, and the streaming is handled by a private cloudfront distro which can only be accessed through the proper key. In other words prior to launch it's impossible to access the episode (without actually compromising our administration panel), and the episode is never stored on our server itself anyway.