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Fedora-san
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Just go to some of their websites. Some of the top of my head are Minori, Akabei Soft, Illusion, and Lowtech City. They all range from Minori and Akabei Soft blocking American IPs to LTC just saying "Japanese only" and not wanting to sell to Americans. In Illusion's case it all goes back to the whole RapeLay fiasco. After that whole controversy where Americans tried to shove their agends in Japan a lot of them just started blocking Americans from their stores not to have to deal with it. Others like LTC just don't like how Americans upload their work instantly to Sad Panda or other sites so they generally make it hard for Americans to get a hold of their works, which means sticking to distribution site like Toranoana which doesn't sell to US residents. Generally it's only works that get uploaded to sites like DLsite or people who use middleman services that upload stuff. A lot of stuff never gets uploaded as a result. |
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Hoppy800
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LowTech City, never heard of them, Minori is not a doujin developer but a big VN developer and they've been doing that for a long time (same with Alicesoft, with similar reasons to Illusion unlike Minori and their blocking predates that fiasco). |
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Kadmos1
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An inspiration for Conan has some irony here: only 10 of the 60 Doyle-written Sherlock Holmes books are still copyrighted (at least in the USA).
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mangamuscle
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You fail to realize that your appreciation is completely subjective. It is not about x, y or z website no longer allowing connection from non-japanese netizens, it is about the percentage of total sales said companies/circles have in the doujin market, how many titles are no longer sold with data broken down by year. |
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Tenebrae
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According to my recollection, it is only parts of a single book that remain under copyright over there. And yes, googling and looking at http://www.sherlockian.net/acd/copyright.html it appears to be so. |
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mdo7
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Sound like the case of Galapagos Syndrome, ever heard of it? Yeah it happened to the Japanese pre-iOS/Android phones. The banning of foreigners from buying visual novels from Japan is no different. |
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Hoppy800
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Only one problem, you can import console/handheld VNs so your theory is a bit flimsy. |
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mdo7
Posts: 6271 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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You have to get pass the language barrier. But VN and doujin games are not my thing. |
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Hoppy800
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That's a standard for import gaming when comes to Japan only titles in general. VNs are not for everyone and there are plenty of good doujin games (mostly shmups but since those are bullet hell shooters they also aren't for everyone, and there are other genres as well that have some decent games). |
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Sakura-Alchemist
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But it's actually been getting better with Toranoana for overseas customers though, they allow things to be shipped to tenso forwarding addresses now where as before they would completely block all transactions like that. They even made the news post for this in english for the international buyers. ( ' 3 ') They still don't ship things themselves to overseas but they at least don't completely ban it anymore. When I talked to a Japanese artist they were concerned about the differences in censorship laws, so I kind of got the impression that was the reason for the block in the first place. anyway giving the theme of Detective Conan this kind of does make sense. |
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sailornyanko
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All of these draconian copyright laws ranging from the OP/ED music for legit streamed online anime to the insanely tight laws governing pop idols not letting Jpop videos being shown on VH1 or anything has only hurt Japan.
I'm seeing more and more mexican teenager anime/manga fans that are really into the K-dramas and K-pop music which doesn't have such ridiculous copyright laws. If Japan wants to avoid their country from turning into Japanarabia or a colony of China in 100 years, either they start pumping babies at 5 tots per woman or they better bring a healthy import of healthy tempo foreigners that are willing to live and work there for a few years and then leave. Someone has gotta work in those nursing homes and if you are into K-pop and learn how to speak the easier Korean language you are more likely to work in South Korea. By limiting exposure to potential future temporary legal migrants Japan is hurting itself again. Hollywood learned they can still make millions despite the piracy and has left them decently alone, Japan has no real need to stay in such backwards times. |
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mdo7
Posts: 6271 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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Dude, can I be your best friend? I've been sending this same warning about Japan's pop culture for 2 years. (Disclaimer: sailornyanko and I are not the same person, the person above is not me, I didn't create a 2nd ANN account to soapbox or shoving K-pop down people's throat. An IP address check from a moderator can validate this) I can absolutely validate that piracy does not hurt sales, South Korea's pop culture is the proof of that and music sales hasn't decline despite piracy being rampart. Also, sailornayanko is correct about the birthrate problem in Japan but that is also a problem in most of Asia (Taiwan and South Korea has lowered birth rate worse then Japan). Also I want to remind people that Japan's music sale has been declining for the last few years. So I never believed in self-sustained market and Japan prove that. South Korea and Taiwan used to had that same thought like Japan, but they realized the international market helped their market and their economy. |
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NormanS
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Going off topic here, but thats not all to the story. One of the major things of why it was bashed is because of the underaged character Manaka that was in the Rapelay game. America, UK (another country that did a fair number of reporting of it) and other countries that is not Japan have in-a-sense a mainstream stance on Child Pornography which Manaka is subjected to. Alot of the eroge/hentai games that Illusion and amongst others cannot sell in the US or else where is because they feature an underaged character. Its also part of the reason why you dont see alot of hentai anime being licenced to English. Now, if Illusion or anyone else decides to make a game that doesn't have an underaged character then it might be able to sell, There's already some english 3D porn games that are circulating so pornographic games is not an issue. As for the topic, i agree Japan's copyright laws are very strict. Though i wonder if a majority of the notion behind it is mostly being lobbied by the music and CD business. I remember reading that the enforced law on Oct 1 2012 was partially because the japanese music industry was saying that the "japanese are buying less music (On CD) therefore piracy is the one to blame" im not sure if they count digital purchases. |
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HeeroTX
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Just wanted to note, this isn't the first anime version of this. They did it before the Gintama movie 2 years ago (I never realized before that the women in the background is in the "live" version)
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mdo7
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Not to go off topic too but beside the draconian law passed regarding the music download I also think the tax hike that Japan imposed has probably made music sales in Japan worse given that the price of CDs are ridiculous (add the tax hike, and that makes it worse). I mean Japan just recovered from a recession not long ago and I have read that retail sales in Japan still continue to decline according to a NYT article. So I have to assume music sales may have went down in Japan. So yeah, Japan's music industry can't survive in this condition and that next tax hike coming in 2017 is going to make it worse for J-music (I think it may hurt K-pop sales in Japan also). |
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