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Ashabel
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The reason why "no one whines about Yuri!!! on Ice" is because it was a good, smartly directed and written show that used fanservice in tune with the mood presented by the show and delivered its messages without ever sabotaging itself. Both of those things are something Darling in the Franxx so far fails at. You seem adamant on insisting that complaints in this article are about the presence of fanservice and not the way it's used, which does nothing to your ability to uphold an argument. When you argue, it's generally polite to understand the other side's argument first. |
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DeTroyes
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I think some people are just bored with it in every show, and want some variety. Doesn't bother me, and I'm curious to see where this is going (and think 002 may yet turn out to be something of a villain). And we have had mechs with lesbian undertones before. Doesn't anyone remember Iczer One? |
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Lemonchest
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Remember? Most weren't born yet. |
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Beatdigga
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Then again it’s not like the Iczer shows ever finished (I think even the manga-ka made fun of his tendencies for non endings once).
I think I’m defending this show because of what it could be given its base. It clearly needs some time to explain its main themes though. |
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FackuIkari
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I really don't get all the hate it's getting. They do the same with every series, It's a 2 cour Trigger series, calm the fudge down, the moment they set up a status quo they're gonna tear that shit down by episode 12 or even less so seriously, just wait.
Don't believe in Trigger, believe in the you that believes in Trigger. |
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Ashabel
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Trigger aren't present in Darling in the Franxx's production committee, they aren't involved in any decisions regarding the series' story, and they don't even animate it. They're only responsible for direction and animation in mecha fights, which means so far they're responsible for maybe four-five minutes of the series' current one-hour run time. In other words, this isn't a Trigger show. If this is a Trigger show, then I'm the freaking creator of Final Fantasy on the grounds of having edited a couple localization scripts. |
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DeTroyes
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I'm with you as far as wanting to give the show a chance. Its intrigued me enough that I'm willing to buy into its premise and want to see where it goes, even if its execution is about as subtle as a nuke strike.
I think in part its a symptom of the times we live in. A lot of people have become sensitized (I would argue, over-sensitized) to certain aspects of gender and sexuality, and object strenuously when they encounter something that doesn't conform to their ideal depiction of such matters. This show has clearly pushed some buttons (and I think, quite deliberately), so it is only natural that some percentage of those reactions would be intensely negative. I doubt the uproar would be nearly as prominent if this were a straight up mecha show (but then, if that were the case, it couldn't deliver on its central metaphor). I'm with the side that wants to give it a chance. Now that we've got an idea of what its premise is, its time for them to see how they play with it. Last edited by DeTroyes on Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:12 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Lord Oink
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Modern western media goes through rigorous focus testing and marketing in order to try to appeal to everyone, leaving the end result to be as bland and inoffensive as possible. The idea an anime is aimed at one group and doesn't care about the rest is an alien concept to most people. They see a show with sexy women and fanservice and are naturally confused by it. "That's odd" they may say, "they seemed to have forgotten to show the men off for the female and/or gay audience, clearly this is a mistake, minus 50 points". When in reality the show isn't aimed at them, and they may as well crumple that grievances report into a ball and toss it into the bin for how important a complaint like that is. |
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Last edited by Chrono1000 on Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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catstigereye
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Let’s see how not to build technology needed to survive! Should be the description of this anime! Also this new format of bubble talk is bad journalism for Animenewsnetwork.
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TarsTarkas
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Feel like I am living in George Orwell's 1984, and the Thought Police are out to get us, from reading this review. It's nice how the PC police like bringing in new weaponized terminology, like "heteronormative", to tell us how bad the show is or we the audience. Guess that is the word of the day.
Since the reviewers hit FRANXX for not having the new age PC milestones in it, does that mean every show has to hit all the PC milestones or be Judged! Since this show is being judged for what it doesn't have or include. The actual review portion of this column was informative and right on cue. Show isn't classy, and was made for an intended audience (which isn't allowed nowadays, least not without a lot of name calling and shaming) Hopefully it turns out to be a constantly good show, I did like the first episode, so I will keep watching. @DeTroyes As to Iczer One, I loved that show. Have it on Laserdisc too! You are right it did have that. Sadly, if it premiered today, it would be ripped apart |
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tintor2
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The most common complain I tend to find across the fandom is: Why is Hiro not hotheaded or something like.
I mean, just look at Gurren Lagann. People used to hate Simon a lot in the first episodes due to his insecurities but they loved Kamina who was aggresive like 02. Then everybody knows what happened to Kamina and Simon changed. I wonder what things are Trigger planning to do with Hiro to see if he can team up with 02 |
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Wtv
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You have to agree that making a show that's suppose to be about sexuality and relationship and failing to explore other kinds of sexuality is a waste opportunity. It's like making a story about america culture and focus on New York. Now, not that this show is even trying to do something intruiguing, and to me when they brought the To Loveru author to draw the manga, their intentions were clear. It's just a dumb mecha show with fanservice, and that's fine, I just won't waste my time with it. ANN critics are giving it too much credit. |
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Ashabel
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Nothing. They are planning nothing because they're not on the production committee and don't have a say in the show's story. At all. In fact, there is a convenience store chain in Japan who have more of say in DarliFra's story than Trigger do. I'm honestly becoming fascinated with people's complete insistence with branding Darling in the Franxx as a Trigger show. The complete list of the show's production committee can be easily found online (here is a convenient screenshot), the complete list of the staff is available and even the in-show credits indicate that Trigger have no involvement beyond the series' mecha action. Did A-1 Pictures deploy some mass brainwashing technique in order to ensure that they're not held responsible regardless of what happens to the show, good or bad? Is Kill la Kill's mind-controlled dystopia our actual reality now? I really want to know. |
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