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Polycell
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:58 pm
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The library seems to be treating this as a book target at adults, rather than an adult book. I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if the folks who responded didn't know anything about it beyond what their catalog says.
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Tanteikingdomkey
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:18 pm
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Polycell wrote: | The library seems to be treating this as a book target at adults, rather than an adult book. I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if the folks who responded didn't know anything about it beyond what their catalog says. |
considering that it is under adult non fiction I would totally agree with that.
I would also ask why they bought that book instead of something more objectively good or at least popular.
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dan9999
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:20 pm
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I am with the library.
Totally pointless stuff anyway, because kids nowadays are introduced to sex very early, many already doing it to boot, parents are just stupid, no, just want want to think kids 10+ years old are still innocent, they are not, good percentage at least.
Plus as some have pointed out, parents are simply lazy, better avoid sex stuff as much as possible, censor, instead of explaining and talking to their children openly about it.
In my days, around 10, 11 at most we boys and girls were already familiar with sex, while definitely not as liberal as nowadays we were already watching some porn and girls were definitely not clueless about it, now imagine what is happening nowadays?
If I was a parent I would not censor them in anything, just like I never was, free liberty to access the internet, any book, if they want to read hentai manga, watch some porn so be it, I had access to it since very early too, I will however talk with them openly about it and make emphasis in unwanted pregnancy and risks of real life sex.
If they wanted to play the GTAs of their time or some adult material, I would even buy them for them, 10+ sound good age, thats when most kids start to have questions and be curious about lots of stuff, I rather be their friend and generate a bond of openness and trust than the conservative parent-kid relationships of the past.
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tangytangerine
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:31 pm
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Sounds like a lazy parent that doesn't want to watch what their kid is doing because they're too busy off doing their own stuff. It's just like the parents that freak out when they realize what is in the M-rated game they bought their kid.
flip wrote: | This could never happens in the Montreal libraries network because a user with a children library card cannot borrow a book identified as “adult” (i.e. over fourteen year-old). The computerized system would simply refuse to allow such borrowing (unless, of course, the child is using one of his/her parents card which is normally not allowed, but card ownership is rarely checked by libraries' staff). |
That's how mine is setup too. The system won't allow anyone under 15 to check out any adult books or rated R movies.
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littlegreenwolf
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:36 pm
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But how do you guys categorize something as an adult book? If there's cussing in it, or murder, is it adult? Or is it adult when there's sex scenes. Cause we don't exactly have a Motion Picture Association of America film rating system on our books here.
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EmbraceMe
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:41 pm
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Tanteikingdomkey wrote: |
I would also ask why they bought that book instead of something more objectively good or at least popular. |
They explained it in the article:
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KCLS develops its collection to reflect the diversity of the patrons we serve. Materials are selected based on a variety of criteria including, but not limited to, current and anticipated needs and interests of the public and contribution to the breadth of collections. We also expand the collection by responding to requests from patrons, and graphic novels are one of the most requested areas of the collection. When evaluating suggested titles, staff consults industry-related websites, newsletters and blogs. If overall reviews are positive, a title is purchased; conversely, if the consensus is negative, the request is declined. |
I've read the blog and they brought up a point that I overlooked since it does not exist at the library I work at. Self check outs are available in some libraries so you cannot expect the employees to moderate the actions of all the patrons. KCLS also adapts a policy of not limiting children to just children's books.
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tygerchickchibi
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:51 pm
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EmbraceMe wrote: | KCLS also adapts a policy of not limiting children to just children's books. |
Because some of them are on a higher reading level than other children, so not letting them explore other options are a bit stifling.
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tangytangerine
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:00 pm
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littlegreenwolf wrote: | But how do you guys categorize something as an adult book? If there's cussing in it, or murder, is it adult? Or is it adult when there's sex scenes. Cause we don't exactly have a Motion Picture Association of America film rating system on our books here. |
The way mine is set up is that the tame stuff like Bakuman & Naruto gets put in the Teen section. While stuff that has nudity, graphic violence(like Claymore) or profanity in it gets put in the adult section(and for some reason, mine list it under Adult non-fiction).
I pretty much agree with the way it's set up, as that's usually how games, movies & tv shows are categorized under.
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wohdin
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:47 pm
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ayashe wrote: | Too bad it wasn't Viewfinder, the shock probably would have killed him. |
ikr
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Animegomaniac
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:20 pm
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I do kind of wonder; Did she read the first volume?
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De Nevers also told the B-Town Blog that "What also sickens me is that people are going to the library to read this kind of content? An anime comic book section is where people go to read porn? Around kids? There is no good coming from this being in our library." |
Yep, but most of it doesn't have pictures though. A harsh wake up call for Travis, I guess.
I can't take this seriously, really. If she just stuck to the internet like everyone else then she never would have been found out....
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nobahn
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:22 pm
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Sorry, geneo, but I am calling a spade a spade here....
geneo wrote: | if you go two the store and buy cigarette , if you underage they wont
sell them to you . if you look underage its a no-go why can't the library do the some if the library is organized it only take one person
only the other hand the material coming out japan if it anime book or
dvds is not good for our kids at all. as japan is number 1 country child
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I am not joking, dude -- you need to take a composition class.
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hikaru004
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:31 pm
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tygerchickchibi wrote: |
EmbraceMe wrote: | KCLS also adapts a policy of not limiting children to just children's books. |
Because some of them are on a higher reading level than other children, so not letting them explore other options are a bit stifling. |
If they want the kids to explore more options, it needs to be with parental approval. I don't call having a 10 yo reading yaoi as exploring options.
Libraries give the same old defense when a parent or adult call them on having kids view things that weren't meant for kids. If the libraries can't manage their collections properly, then it shouldn't be there.
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nobahn
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:35 pm
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hikaru004--
OK, but exactly where do you draw the line? (And exactly how do you draw the line? Censorship is quite the slippery slope, you know.)
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Tanteikingdomkey
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:40 pm
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[quote="Animegomaniac"]I do kind of wonder; Did she read the first volume?[quote]
I was really interested in that to.
that said I would hope that she didn't just think it looked cute and was like other stuff she liked and then got surprised by the content.
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Sunday Silence
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:06 pm
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nbahn wrote: |
hikaru004--
OK, but exactly where do you draw the line? (And exactly how do you draw the line? Censorship is quite the slippery slope, you know.) |
I think the line has to be drawn on a personal level. However, just because the line is draw at a personal level, it doesn't mean that it means everyone subscribes to that line. Or some sh** like that.....
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