Forum - View topicNEWS: No Anime Nominated for Oscars [2013-01-10]
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oblivious247
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What I'd love to know is how many of the people here who have simply written these movies off as children's movies have actually seen a couple of them. Granted they're all very child friendly. But child friendly is not a bad thing. |
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Zac
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Of course they haven't seen them. Just like the people complaining that Batmans and Superhero Team-Up weren't nominated for Best Picture likely haven't seen more than one of the nominated films. It's a dumb cultural identity and ego thing, not an actual criticism of the films nominated or any sort of coherent complaint against AMPAS. |
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KLAC
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well give no anime has been noms for any oscar this year besides unless wait for right type of anime to someday get noms for oscar oh well there always next year.
yet one mentions for this give only seen wreck it ralph & paperman. besides i think so among shorts so likely guessing paperman could get oscar for it give way it went & story quite a very good feel on it. |
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Ambimunch
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wouldn't poppy hill be a strong candidate?
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walw6pK4Alo
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Maybe, but people would have needed to see it, which means it would have needed a wide release in 2012. You notice limited releases don't get Oscar buzz, they also don't have Academy campaigns and screeners meant to gain votes. Had Poppy Hill opened in October, lets say, to a mere 500 screens, that'd be infinitely better for its chances a short week in LA. The film had no chance with the bare bones approach, these things have to be done strategically. That's why Oscar-baity films are released towards the end of the year (Lincoln, Les Mis, Argo, ZD30) and why January is the dumping ground of lesser films. I think Moonrise Kingdom might have a chance in its category, since Lincoln isn't in it, and the Spielberg Machine for a film like that will sadly crush all competition. |
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yotsubafanfan
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All in favor of a foreign animation catagory raise your hand!
But seriously this sucks, I hope Wreck it Ralph will win at the end, best Disney film in a long time, and it's very creative! And as a gamer I love how they included tons of video game characters and references spoiler[( especially the Sonic the hedge hog reference I nearly died when I saw Sonic on the sign giving advice, making reference to "Sonic Says" from the 1990's "Sonic the hedgehog show)] high quality stuff and the best thing Disney's made in years. As for Paperman, its one of the best short films I've ever seen in my life, the story and animation for it was nothing less than flawless. If that doesn't win, I'll once again loose hope for the future of American Entertainment. Last edited by yotsubafanfan on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:37 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Crispy45
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>_> Equally steller? Well I guess that's your opinion but it's not like it's not common knowledge that American animation has been in a ghetto for the past few decades. From Up on Poppy Hill alone is more diverse and creative than anything else on that list. You can love those movies but they are children's movies and they play out and act just as you would expect children's movies to play out. They were nothing special or stuff we haven't seen before. Aint hypocritical to like anime and not western animation no matter how much you guys wanna claim it is.
lolwut. You've only seen 1 video game movie I take it >_> The Professor Layton movie was far better than Wreck It Ralph was.. and counts waaaay more as a video game movie since it actually is about a video game where Wreck it Ralph just had a few gimmicky cameos. Anime is one of the worst opponents you can fight against in video game adaptions.. they make buttloads more video game anime and movies than America does. |
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CrowLia
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Honestly Poppy Hill wasn't all that good. Yes, it tried to delve into the possibility of brother/sister romance without making it the stupidity the imouto genre has made of it, but at the end itspoiler[ just took a whole lot of absurd twists and turns so that the kids could be in love and not be related by blood.]
And as someone else said, relegating those movies as "children movies" just because they're American animation is just the same as saying anime is for kids because it's cartoons. 
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oblivious247
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Oh please. Just because the vast majority of anime fans trash on American animation every chance they get, doesn't make what they're saying true. Sure, America doesn't put out as much animation as Japan. Regardless, American animation has plenty to offer, on tv and in film. Yes, every single one of these films could be regarded as children's movies. But there is nothing wrong with being a children's movie. Several of these are quite enjoyable films and they all performed well critically. I'm sorry your bias against American animation won't allow you to see what they have to offer. Anime generally is more diverse and covers a much broader range of subjects, many of which American animation would never touch. That does not make it inherently better. Nor does maturity for maturity's sake. How this conversation reminds me of why I drifted away from anime forums. Anime fans are always saying people need to be more open minded about animation, but look how close minded they become when the topic turns to American animation. I'm glad those days are behind me. |
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penguintruth
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Yeah, but American animation is for kids, whereas anime is... also largely for kids!
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oblivious247
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DUDE YOU CAN'T SAY THAT! |
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Tenchi
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Eh, both Chico & Rita and A Cat in Paris got nominated last year with a similar "bare bones approach", though I will grant that 2011 was a very weak year for American animation feature films not titled "Rango".
It wasn't a snub, Arrietty simply wasn't eligible because it was released in Japan in 2010 and the Academy only grants a single calendar year extension for foreign animated films to play in Los Angeles to be eligible. |
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PurpleWarrior13
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While I would have loved for Poppy Hill to be nominated, these films aren't bad.
I don't think the academy is "against" anime though since Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle were both nominated, and Spirited Away actually WON the statue. |
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naninanino
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Actually it does make it inherently better. It's just common sense, nothing to be ashamed about it. This isn't about waging some fanwar or denying that american animation could at least be enjoyable if nothing else. It's just about being realistic about it. I don't mind kid stuff myself and I even watch morning-tv anime. There are some good things to be found in them, but that's no justification to ignore some obvious strenghts in the name of equality. That if anything is hypocrisy. |
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grooven
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Paranorman is a better rounded movie (imo), in almost every aspect. Even go see critic reception of the two on Rotten Tomatoes. It is not Pixar's best. So this now allows for another movie to take an award. Pixar didn't bring their A game this year. |
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