Forum - View topicNEWS: Canadian Man Jailed for 'Anime' & Real Child Pornography
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firedragon54738
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So they finely got a real one
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mdo7
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Can't defend this guy. he had actual child porn so sorry.
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HitokiriShadow
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No, because they aren't really victimless. Those are there for actual practical reasons, because they have real effects, effects beyond "well, they could maybe, possible influence someone if they're severely lacking in self control or already mentally ill". Not wearing a seatbelt is only victimless until that person is in an accident and is ejected from their car and splattered on the pavement. It's debatable whether certain drugs should be illegal, but the ones that should be are NOT victimless. But that's all moot here anyway since he had actual child porn, which is illegal for a good reason (because of what's inherently necessary to make it, not what it may or may not cause them to do after they look at it). |
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NGK
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as per article: http://www.wellandtribune.ca/2013/05/21/st-catharines-man-gets-nine-months-for-child-porn
My Commentary: 1) It's cases like this where persons with faulty BS-detector and poor (or almost non-existent) I.T./security/computer skills that are susceptible to "easy pickings" by LEA. 2) I would not be surprised if western visitors of that "sad panda" website also consume not just 2D, but also 3D in tandem with 2D... just like the real "kimo-otaku" counterparts in Japan where they also get their 3D fix in the form of (grey-area but legal) "junior-idols" (DVDs & magazines sold prominently in some Akihabara stores as Fuji News Network reports https://www.youtube.com/v/xKhBqJC8koo&autoplay=1 and this observer from America illustrates https://www.youtube.com/v/f-jsc5OSEMw&autoplay=1) Last edited by NGK on Thu May 23, 2013 2:18 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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revolutionotaku
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Child pornography is not a victimless crime because after the child is filmed and/or photographed while being sexually abused, the child will remember that event throughout their entire lives & may grow up mentally unstable which will also over time cause depression, post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), illegal drug use, sexual confusion & suicide. However, illustrated drawings such as Lolicon & Shotacon are works of pure fiction & nobody is being victimized or exploited in any way. Last edited by revolutionotaku on Thu May 23, 2013 1:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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partysmores
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This case is much different as this man possessed real child porn, so I have no sympathy for him. I completely disagree with the attorney, though.
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revolutionotaku
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This is almost as disturbing as the time British rock star Gary Glitter was busted after the police found kiddie porn as well as photos of abused children on his computer after sending it to a computer repair shop.
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NGK
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Here's an interesting observation... if framed as an outsider's perspective on the following 2 situations:
1) Hardcore gamer totally immersed & engrossed in chaotic online military-style shooting games and wants to try out the real thing 2) shows interest in acquiring then purchase high-powered "assault" weapons, bullets and gears as seen in game 3) Learns the "trade" 4)(fill-in for the final, worst case scenario) 1) loli otaku connoisseur ... having "learned" the "positions" and read all the "scenarios" collected in 2D form feels the need to branch out beyond 2D 2) gets engrossed with 3D form through niche websites/forums 3) branches out further 4) (fill-in for the final, worst case scenario) ... isn't these just the natural progression of things? 
Last edited by NGK on Thu May 23, 2013 2:20 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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NGK
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And just like I said above:
... I guess we might wanna add lack of "common sense" for reasons of "easy pickings" reports lately
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revolutionotaku
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I guess that's the reason why Canadian Border Customs decided to seize shipments of BL manga from the United States.
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-05-16/bl-manga-bond-of-dreams-bond-of-love-sold-in-canada-despite-seizure http://www.kuriousity.ca/2013/05/rightstuf-warns-of-bl-book-seizing-at-canada-customs/ |
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StormSky92
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Since some of it was real, I think he deserved a much bigger punishment than just 9 months in prison. This person shouldn't be allowed in public again.
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Polycell
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That's a bit harsh for twelve images he almost certainly had nothing to do with creating, don't you think?
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egoist
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We really should jail anyone able to break a neck. I don't feel safe at night unless I know everybody free isn't able to twist my neck.
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dtm42
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Guess what hotshot; Anime isn't real. Neither is Manga. They don't have real victims like real child pornography does and they do not encourage people to abuse real children. It sounds to me like you don't care about real children and that you simply want to be the thought police and outlaw anything you don't personally agree with. And you really need to read this thread.
Not harsh enough. It's guys like him who create and encourage a demand for real child pornography pictures (even if there's no money changing hands). |
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TitanXL
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I don't think that's how supply and demand works. Technically if he pirated those pictures, he didn't contribute to it at all. It would have happened regardless if he saw them or not. Denying someone from seeing something doesn't mean it doesn't magically exist. |
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