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Anymouse
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The_Libertarian_Otaku
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I don't get why ANN reviewers hate moe so much. What did that genre ever do to them? It's like there's a law among their reviewers that, unless it's one of KyoAni's shows, if it's moe, it has to be given a bad review. Ditto anything with fanservice--it's as if there's a law requiring them to bash anything ecchi, too. |
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fighterholic
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Well, there are probably a few factors as to why they are there. When did Doraemon start being released there? Another thing I should point out, though I'm not trying to argue or anything here, is that Spain geographically is smaller than the US, which probably makes it easier for marketing techniques for the series. Seeing the United States as large as it is, I don't see how they can try and release Doraemon over here and have a successful turnaround right away.
I believe it has to do with who the reviewers are and their preferences. So, if they did get a reviewer who likes moe, then you probably wouldn't see it getting bashed all the time. They are also looking at the total aspect of the anime, which includes quality, animation, voice acting, storyline, etc etc. Not just the fanservice and pantyshots. If it's just that and there is no redeemable quality to the anime, then of course they're going to hate on it. |
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Blood-
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I think it is something to do with the way ANN recruits its reviewers. Apparently, two of the questions they ask are, "Do you have a stony, dark heart? Do you enjoy kicking cute little puppies?" Word is if you don't answer "Yes" to both, then no reviewing allowed for you. 'Course that could just be baseless scuttle-butt... |
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Top Gun
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On the contrary, I find it quite on-putting. Keep up the good fight, lads (and lasses)! |
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vashfanatic
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Bamboo (who does shelf-life) loves Clannad, Kanon, and all those moe shows. One of the male reviewers (either Carlos or Theron, I believe) has been known to reference fanservice positively. You're making some sweeping generalizations here. ... but if you are selling those keychains, sign me up! Moe is overused and annoying at this point. |
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HitokiriShadow
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@Brian: I didn't expect you would like Toradora much more on the second try if it didn't grab your interest in the first place. But that's okay since that's not what most of us wanted from you. We just wanted you to acknowledge that it wasn't the Love Hina-esque fanservice romp you made it out to be last week. And you did just that, so I (and most other fans of the series, I think) appreciate that.
I recall every volume of Strawberry Marshmallow and Kamichu getting good reviews, and those are very much "moe" titles. I just wish moe would stop getting treated like this one universal genre, like its all the same thing. Not everyone does it, but its still done way too much. It's like saying all action series are more or less the same when that's simply not true. I also have issues with how moe fans tend to react to this stuff, but I'll save it for a more relevant thread. |
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Vicserr
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No, I support it 1000%, I rather see that appreciation given to the One True Moe!!!! 
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4nBlue
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I fail to see how being violent or lower middle class is connected to being a tsundere. A tsundere is a person (note: a man can be a tsundere as many shoujo fans are likely aware) who: a) ("classic" tsundere) doesn't like the protagonist from the start, but will fall in love with him/her during the story. Proceeds from tsun to dere during the story. b) ("modern" tsundere) can't be honest to her/his feeling. Constantly changes between tsun and dere in order to look "cute"/irritate people who want to see character development. I really like the classic tsundere, because the story usually has to include the main character doing something to get the girl fall in love with him. Best example of this in my opinion is the "tsundere bible" Tsyokiss (the game, not the horrible anime which really needs a remake) where none of the girls think protagonist to be anything special at the start of the game.
Do the people who say that they hate moe even know what it means, because I don't know anymore. First time I heard it, it meant a feeling of wanting to protect a little sister-type of character, but now it seems to mean "this show has girls". The word has lost its meaning when adult looking bishounen are considered to be moe: animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-03-02/tokyo-chuo-train-line-made-into-moe-boy-characters |
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yruahippo
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On a slightly unrelated topic, Hey Answerfans: I had to get this of my chest (no pun intended) because it just made me cringe. >.<
No, it's not 'nuff said'. My class frequently grope each other, often as greetings, and no-one bats an eyelid. I can't count the number of times I've walked into the classroom and had someone running-glomp me and pull me into an tight hug complete with groping and occasionally falling on each other. Sure, I go to an all-girls-school but friends from neighbouring schools, both single sex and co-ed, act the same way with their classes. Was your generation like this at my age is or this a new thing? Are people my age more sex aware/open then previous generations? Is this normal for people my age everywhere or is it just londoners? ^^; Btw, I'm 16, female and not a lesbian (don't have a problem with it just don't wanna give the wrong impression). |
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nobahn
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Zin5ki
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I'm in SE London myself. If I tried to hug and grope people, my chances of survival would be slim. One of the many reasons I like Kyoani's Key adaptations is the lack of fanservice (reportedly) present in Ai Yori Aoshi and similar works. There are admittedly other elements in the shows which result in them receiving numerous detractors, but the clothes stay on and the breasts remain ungroped. |
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yruahippo
Posts: 11 Location: SE London |
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Ahaha, prolly shouldn't have grouped all the Londoners together. Sorry. ^^; I too live in SE London though.
And it's not so much random people as friends - I wouldn't try and grope strangers. It's just that all my class seem to be fine with it so I was wondering if other people are like this with their circles of friends? |
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the Rancorous
 Posts: 2248 Location: Hunting the Dragon in Gransys |
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Sorry, but this false generalization bugged me... Ever hear of the Good Samaritan Law? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_Act You know why it exists? Because a civilian saved the life of an older fella with CPR, caused a rib or two to break, and that ungrateful goon sued his savior for the broken rib(s). He sued the man who saved his life. Just thought I'd throw that out there, toodles... |
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konkonsn
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What do you mean by grope? I hug my friends all the time, and occassionally someone pounces when they're feeling playful, but nobody I know goes out of their way to grab boobs or butts while hugging. I live in Midwest America, btw. |
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