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REVIEW: Fate/Zero Episodes 1-6 Streaming

I just think the series needed to be 50 episodes instead of 25 so they could have paced it better.

Usually when people use the word "redeem" they imply that a mistake was made right. Are you saying that you regret the grades you gave? Because the rest of your post says the opposite. Sorry, I know it's a joke from the emoticon, but I had to at least ask.

I'm no rabid fanboy, I'm a Type-Moon hater, one who has been enjoying Fate/Zero a lot more than with many shows this season. You may not like the series and its direction thus far but you have overreacted in your grades for it. The show has many flaws, I'm not disputing that. But none of them individually - or even all of them collectively - are so bad as to warrant the extreme prejudice you have laid upon it.

Would you give the first 6 eps of Moribito a D in terms of story?

You complaints are ridiculous. You cannot possibly claim that '100% everything' has been explained or foreshadowed already unless you have read the Fate/Zero novels.

By the way, is the "best enjoyed by those who have already seen (or played) the original Fate/stay night" based on being familiar with Fate/Stay Night yourself or an assumption?

Not the best 6 episodes of animation I've ever witnessed, but rating it lower than tenjou tenge and memories of nobody does not seem justifiable.

Upon further examination of my conscience, I think my incredibly averse reaction to early Fate/Zero is not just the excessive exposition and dialogue, but that it combines elements like magic, battle, complex interwoven plots, and emo self-introspection ... in other words, Pretentious Weeaboo Things that wannabe fantasy authors and OEL manga artists do.

Even by your own standards you're being harsh. Let me put it mathematically speaking. If like you say the art is only great half of the time and merely normal/average for the other half, then that gives 90/100 (great art) + 60/100 (normal art) = 150/200, which is at the 75% mark. Not what I'd consider a C+, if you know what I mean. That's a B or even a B+ right there.

I'm glad you responded and at least tried to engage in conversation in the Talkback thread - unlike a certain other controversial reviewer - but I'm not getting the feeling you are aware of just how flawed your ratings are. If you haven't liked the show thus far then hey, that's okay. But you've penalised and marked it down for things that it did alright in, just because you had an adverse reaction to the work as a whole.

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I'm glad you responded and at least tried to engage in conversation in the Talkback thread - unlike a certain other controversial reviewer - but I'm not getting the feeling you are aware of just how flawed your ratings are. If you haven't liked the show thus far then hey, that's okay. But you've penalised and marked it down for things that it did alright in, just because you had an adverse reaction to the work as a whole.

Or maybe you're just a little too obsessed with grades and numerical scores and should instead read what was written and not freak out because something you love should've gotten a B instead of a C+. You didn't give birth to Fate/Zero, you didn't put it through the best preschools and pay a ton of money to give it piano lessons even though you knew it was too young to handle piano lessons. It's just a show you like and some guy gave it a C+ instead of a B, and there isn't any reason for you to be upset about that. It's just a show.

i find this conversation very amusing...

"omg your ratings are flawed"
"omg *changes conversation focal point* no!! you're just obsessing too much"
next time on troll wars:
"omg *changes focal point back* no, your ratings are just flawed!!"

sry guys. I'm trademarking troll wars. It's mine.

I just thought it was hilarious that the first Bleach movie got a higher overall score.

So yes, 75% is a C. Hell, he was generous giving it a C+ - a harsh teacher would give you just a C. I don't know what country you live in or what you have going on there but both Carlo and I live in the US, and that's the basic system.

Or maybe you're just a little too obsessed with grades and numerical scores and should instead read what was written and not freak out because something you love should've gotten a B instead of a C+.

It's just a show.

announce to you how his brain works differently from most people

I said peace to Carlo, and yet you have to have a swipe.

Hmm, so half the Anime ever made - and by extension, half the Anime reviewed on this site - should get an E or F. Whoops, sorry, more than half, sixty-four percent. Yes, generally the better shows will be licensed, and generally the better licensed shows will be reviewed, but that's still a lot of "missing" F and D grade Anime.

If your reviewers can't even properly apply your own culture's grading systems to the shows they review then do not lecture me about it, bring it up with them.

As an aside, at the university I went to, D is anything between 40% and 49% inclusive, C is 50% and still a passing grade, and to get an A+ you only need 85%. The difference is we almost never use multi-choice and allocate more marks for the harder questions. So a person who knows the fundamentals of the material but have yet to master it might only get fifty or sixty percent but they would still pass. Different stokes for different folks.

I did read the review, and I took umbrage with Carlo's grades not matching up to the tone of his review.

Tell me, instead of defending the grades, have you ever thought about not defending the grades? Carlo made the decision to award the grades he did, and you interfering in that process would be unethical. So I'm not saying you should change the grades.

But, that doesn't mean you yourself have to defend the grades either. They're not your grades, they're Carlo's, and I do not see why as his editor you feel you have to defend him. He's an adult, let him explain his reasons instead of you acting like his heavy.

You like bringing out this argument to deflect criticism. Yet, it completely ignores the fact that to many in your target audience

As you are in this industry, Anime might mean nothing more than a job to you, and that's fine. Although, listening to you on ANNCast it seems like you do get invested in Anime. But to the people out there who watch and buy Anime because we like it, as in really like it, Anime actually is important. I believe that dismissing our feelings out of hand and chastising us for getting upset over "just a show" is not a nice way to treat the bread-and-butter of the visitors to this site, especially when the advertising revenue we generate for you pays your salary. No, I'm not demanding "customer satisfaction", but you could show some tact.

Also, I'd like to hear what Justin would say if you told him that Satoshi Kon's works were "just movies", and that he shouldn't get so enthused with them.