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REVIEW: Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie Part 1 & 2

I realise that, but getting a regionless player + the import is probably still cheaper than buying Aniplex's release, especially if you hate Aniplex that much...

Yeah, I agree, and my point is that given how the show is the one of the best of all time, even with a reduced episode count you're still getting a good deal. The increase in quality more than makes up for the decrease in episode count (or minutes of animation) per dollar spent.

Just because Britain is getting a better deal than you doesn't mean that you aren't getting a good deal in the first place.

Like I said, if you can't afford it then you aren't the type of consumer Aniplex is looking to cater to. They are aiming their releases at the uber fans, the die-hard collectors. Not Joe Bloggs or Jane Doe who might have $20-$30 to spend on Anime at the end of the month.

It's like a guy on the average wage complaining that he can't buy a Ferrari because they are unreasonably expensive. Those cars aren't aimed at people like him in the first place, so him complaining about it at every opportunity is hilariously misguided and pointless at best, and obnoxious at worst.

Well then it will be interesting to see if Aniplex can survive without your money. I'm betting that they will.

kakitamike wrote:

Honestly, the price wasn't the main deterrent. It was episodes split over 3 individually packaged discs. If they had put out a 2 disc collection in a single case for $100, i probably would of bought it. I know some people don't like seeing 6 episodes a disc, but for a "cheap" dvd release, I would of been happy.

You mean like the complete series that is being sold in one package for $40 bucks (on BD) in the UK?

But we should be happy that costs three times that here in the US... :/

You're analogy is ridiculous. You're comparing a good series in a niche fandom to a luxury car in an the vast sea known as the auto industry? Right. Apples and oranges my friend.

Why would you purposely limit the people you want to sell to within a fandom that's already relatively small? Not only that but the "diehards" in this nick of the woods are comparatively outnumbered by your "Joe Bloggs."

Yes, alienate the small number of people in your consumer base. Let's wait and see how long that works out for them.

I'm not the only person who feels this way. Lost revenue adds up. Let's wait and see.

I'm sorry, but do you even understand how analogies work? Even if we shrink the auto market to scale, it's still like bitching about how BMW will never get your business until they start pricing like Toyota.

No, I do not want to see PMMM streamed. I want my own copy in my own BD player.

No, I am not saying that I will only pay a "little money" for it: I'll even pay above the market average for one cours BD title. And this *same title* is available in the UK for $40, on BD.

No, telling Aniplex to drop their prices is telling them that I will not buy their product for what they are asking. In fact, by continuing this policy they are restricting the overall anime market since most people only have so much they can spend on anime, and so they will be able to buy fewer titles.

I care about being able to purchase the anime I want at a reasonable price.

Funimation's starting to play with super-premium sets, rather than AoA playing with SAVE pricing

But you're not lost revenue - you're at best a part of an unexploited market, much as the standard car market's unexploited by BMW.

Although there may be people who'd like to drive a BMW or an Audi or and Escalade etc. etc. etc. most people can find a lower end car that comes with the features they want at an affordable price.

I don't know many people who'd bitch about not being able to afford a Mercedes or a BMW etc. etc. those are luxury cars ... They're like trophies.

Using a luxury car as an analogy would only work if we were talking about collectibles. And unelss people who bought the LEs were comprised of people who wanted to leave in it's packaged unopened to accrue value, this is not what were talking about. I'm sure most people who bought the LEs, have opened them up and watched them over and over.

...and as I said I think AoA's business strategy is bad for the anime market in general, even if it is profitable for AoA.

Define "affordable price", because that's entirely subjective.

Ding ding. We have a winner. You got it.

PMMM is a high-end product with nice packaging and extras (although I didn't need the post cards), released by a high-end company which aims its releases at the high-end of the market. Those LEs are the equivalent to trophies, paraded around and put on display by the proud fans who bought them.

If PMMM is a Ferrari then something like UN-GO is a Ford; it works alright but it won't impress you or others. You can't expect to buy a Ferrari at the same price as a Ford.

Whoops, I spoke too soon. It looks like you missed the point entirely.

Instead of complaining about the strength or aptness of the analogy, how about you understand the simple underlying point; don't expect nice things to be priced as low as everything else.

Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote:

...and as I said I think AoA's business strategy is bad for the anime market in general, even if it is profitable for AoA.

This is completely besides the point. We were talking about if Aniplex is justified in charging high prices, not whether Aniplex's business plan is good for the industry or not. That's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

You know, I wondered which one of you would bring this up in a desperate attempt to keep attacking Aniplex even when your original argument (that Aniplex was shooting itself in the foot) was shot down. But I didn't think it would be you.

"I want your product. If you do not price it to match whatever my personal standard is, you have failed, you are losing revenue and your business model is a dangerous failure."

"We're doing fine, our products sell out and we're keeping the lights on."

"...I want your product. If you do not price it to match..."