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INTEREST: Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara Projected to Win 4th Term

It shouldn't have been built there. You lost this argument, because the tsunami occurred there and created a catastrophe. So obviously a mistake was made. If it has to be on a coast line, put it on one that isn't directly next to a fault line. The fact people would defend this just amazes me, and the only defense is to start calling people hippies for something that went horrendously wrong. You may as well be arguing in favor of the citizens of Pompei to build their city next to the volano.

correction: The majority of people in Tokyo who voted like him. Heaven help those in the minority of voters against him and the poor fools who didn't vote.

It's pretty disgusting that a conservative piece of trash like this asshole can get elected in much a modern cutting edge mega-city like Tokyo. Tokyo may be ahead of any city in the US technologically, but socially it's still in the dark ages like some small podunk town out of the deep south in America. This governor is about as modern as some hick sheriff longing for the good old days of slaves picking cotton. I know there have been accusations that he and a number of other Japanese politicians long for the good old days of the emperor and fascism. My heart goes out to the Japanese people who want a socially modern Japan and have to fight against not-so-nice-people like this, women and gays in particular.

The Xenos wrote:

It's pretty disgusting that a conservative piece of trash like this asshole can get elected in much a modern cutting edge mega-city like Tokyo. Tokyo may be ahead of any city in the US technologically, but socially it's still in the dark ages like some small podunk town out of the deep south in America. This governor is about as modern as some hick sheriff longing for the good old days of slaves picking cotton. I know there have been accusations that he and a number of other Japanese politicians long for the good old days of the emperor and fascism. My heart goes out to the Japanese people who want a socially modern Japan and have to fight against not-so-nice-people like this, women and gays in particular.

Can I hug you? ... *does it anyway* T___T
Btw is ANN still updating this story? The official count's in and he's been officially re-elected -_-;;; http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110410/wl_asia_afp/japanpoliticstokyovote

Ghidra999 wrote:

It shouldn't have been built there. You lost this argument, because the tsunami occurred there and created a catastrophe. So obviously a mistake was made. If it has to be on a coast line, put it on one that isn't directly next to a fault line. The fact people would defend this just amazes me, and the only defense is to start calling people hippies for something that went horrendously wrong. You may as well be arguing in favor of the citizens of Pompei to build their city next to the volano.

No. The plant was fine where it was. It should have been built BETTER. If the wall had been even a meter higher, the tsunami wouldn't have gotten to the generators and there would have been no nuclear disaster. The problem wasn't building it on a coast, it was the problem of the fail safe sea wall not being high enough by less than a meter. That's all that cause the problem of one plant in a country full of them in the middle of their biggest earthquake ever, one of the five biggest ever recorded. Only one plant was damaged and, again, that was only due to the tsunami being less than a meter over what was expected.

Never mind the plant was an older model. Any new power plants will learn from this mistake and they will get better. It's called science and progress. Who needs anti-evolution religious nuts to hold them behind, when we have the anti-science of the anti-nuclear power hippies. Seriously, people who rave about how bad nuclear power is are mostly irrational in their fear mongering.

So don't go Monday Morning Quarterbacking saying that the whole energy stagegy of a nation is wrong just because you think no one should build nuclear plants in Japan. With that arrogance you might as well just say all of Japan is stupid for living in such a earthquake prone area period. Are the poor people who died in the tsunami stupid for living in an area prone to such dangers? That line of thought is just ludicrous. Who the hell are you to call the Japanese people, in light of these tragedies, stupid? Some people are realistic about energy needs.

edit: Actually, I stand corrected, there are two pants damaged. Fukushima I and the nearby Fukushima II. Though II was minor damage and it's the Fukushima I plant that's the incident I was talking about and the ongoing crisis.

No. The plant was fine where it was. It should have been built BETTER. If the wall had been even a meter higher, the tsunami wouldn't have gotten to the generators and there would have been no nuclear disaster. The problem wasn't building it on a coast, it was the problem of the fail safe sea wall not being high enough by less than a meter.

It shouldn't have been built there.

Ghidra999 wrote:

It shouldn't have been built there.

Oh, then I have news for you, it is time to move ALL THE SETTLEMENTS IN THE USA WEST COAST. Do not say I didn't warned you, sooner or later the 50 meter (which makes Fukushima's 10 meter look puny) tsunami will not only destroy the nuclear plants, but just about anything created by the hand of man.

Welp, looks like Japan's economy is gonna be borked. See you in 10 years Japan.....

Sunday Silence wrote:

Welp, looks like Japan's economy is gonna be borked. See you in 10 years Japan.....

i guess people ignored my other post but I think they could come to a compromise if they did an anime movie or series based of his novels, that stuff sells like hot cakes as it is japan and I see a win win there, or maybe that's just me.

It shouldn't have been built on a coast line opposite of that kind of fault line that is absolutely going to produce huge tsunamis due to how big it is and how it's positioned in the ocean. It's just a fact. Save your pro-business conservative knee-jerking for people actually stupid enough to buy into it and aren't callous enough to write off the deaths or 12,000 people dying for stubborn idealogical nonsense. I never made an argument that nuclear power should never be used in Japan. It should just be used in a way that isn't totally moronic.

And just arguing the wall should be higher is the kind of grade-school level thinking that resulted in the geniuses who built the plant in that spot thinking the wall could handle it in the first place. I'm sure if we had this argument a few months ago, you'd be one of the geniuses predicting that an earth quake of that size would never happen, so we shouldn't worry about it. Leave our fate in the hands of glorious corporations like Tepco. It will all be ok, guys.

And really I love people who argue against grand corporate incomepetence being called hippies. If you want to go that retro, you should go even further calling everyone in this thread Commie Pinkos while wearing your "Vote for Nixon" button proudly.