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joel_s95387
Posts: 1804 Location: California... The Village Hidden In The Porn |
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 Silly Otaku
I look forward,  , to seeing him post on how bad the Naruto pronunciations are.
I always wondered why spoiler[JENOVA was used to bring back Sephiroth.] I watched it with my friend and was explaining the story up to that point when he asked me why they needed Jenova (screw the spoilers since even Nagisa isn't using them) to revive Sephiroth. I had no idea and said it was just because they HAD to bring him back in the sequel. |
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halochief_90
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I'm really starting to get sick of your consistent bashing of the film. It has its flaws, but I really think your enjoyment of the movie depends on your love for the game. If you don't like nostalgia and awesome recreations of characters you love then go and flame your copy of the game too. FFVII is the single greatest object made by man on this earth. The ending, while brilliant left you on somewhat on a cliff hanger and sooner or later people are going to want to know what the hell happened there. AC answers it even leaves some for fans to fill in for themselves, but nothing major. Didn't you read the top part of my blog. If you are not going to read the whole thing don't bother commenting on it. And who says we as hardcore FFVII fans deserve better, all we do is whine for something new, a sequel, a movie, anything with more content. We finally get something and half of us are complaining. I loved the movie and couldn't expect anything better. And is more than worthly of sitting beside my copy of FFVII. Even if FFVII is much better. |
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Zac
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Keonyn
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I loved the game, one of my all time favorites, but sorry this movie was mediocre. I think your enjoyment of the film has to do with how obsessed with the game you are, not how much you enjoyed it, because if you really enjoyed the game then you'd be disappointed by this plotless cash in. Now, while I appreciate your enthusiasm it really does become apparent that you're a bit on the bias side when it comes to FFVII so in the end this movie was made for people just like you, those who'd take anything with the characters and the brand name that was flashy and shiny and give your money over to Square, mission accomplished by them. Who's to say the fans don't deserve better? The fans make the product, it's nothing without the fans because it is a product and if a product has no fans then that product will not sell. FFVII was successful because of the fans not because Square said so. For that success they should have at least offered up something that didn't rehash the story of the game while simultaneously pissing on it for the fans, eliminating the story that played out in the game that made it so great and offering little aside from over the top action and a lot of flash.
Which is exactly why you'll never get anything better. As long as they can cash in on the fansheep without putting too much effort in to it then they will. Only the consumer loses with brand and product loyalty. |
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DemonEyesLeo
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I finally found a copy of this the other day. I'm already a huge fan of the game and the movie is exactly what I expected it to be: nothing more than a giant, dripping piece of eyecandy and a extension of the story for the fans, and for that reason it served its purpose. Other than that; the plot is simple, but at the same time it gets muddied in all the fighting and sweetness of the eyecandy which makes finding the plot points a bit difficult, if they existed at all. I enjoyed the movie for what it was; something that brought back the characters from the game for the fans to enjoy.
Well yeah they had to bring Sephiroth back, he's one of the coolest characters ever. As for the story spoiler[Sephiroth and most other SOLDIER members had JENOVA cells in them; hence why Sephiroth and Kadaj refer to JENOVA as "mother." So maybe when Kadaj puts the remaining JENOVA part in him it gave him enough power to become Sephiroth]. Though I'm not too sure about that, the movie doesn't do a very good job at explaining it, and even if it did it's hard to follow. |
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Nagisa
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Not really. The game I remember rather positively. This movie is just a structural nightmare on all fronts but the animation.
Where exactly does it answer anything?
You're assuming I even knew you had a blog. Or cared. How egotistical. I'm still discussing the movie here, but good job with the plug.
So, you're saying that because Final Fantasy VII fans are obnoxious ingrates, that you all deserve a plotless pile of nonsense? Hey, your words, not mine. All you're doing at this point is repeating vague claims to the movie's greatness with nothing to back it up. At least I've provided some valid points to back up my criticisms; all you do is sit there and scream "lol its great its great your dumb its great!" over and over again. It's like you've just got your fingers in your ears shouting "lalalalalala i'm not listening lalalala." Please formulate something more substantial before your next reply. |
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Steve007101
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Hm. Well, either way, in my opinion it's irrelavent how well different people liked the story except for how it is most beneficial to SquareEnix. Considering the back story, time frame, and huge potential to essentially appeal to the fans, the story was easily allowed to be simple but effective, that's the point, period. They're in business to make money and they do it well. That's how this business works.
The need for background on the story I agree does bring it down to around a high C-ish for anyone not familiar with it, and then to low C perhaps for the fact that on top of that it's simple, so the story of the movie stand-alone I can agree does merit a D because I do respect the judgement made on it in the review. The review was well based and I respect it. |
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joel_s95387
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Thats what I thought, but then again that would also mean that spoiler[Cloud and all the other guys with Jenova cells should look/be Sephiroth as well].
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dormcat
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Show us by changing your avatar from Inuyasha to an FF7 character first.
After checking your profile and all ten posts you've made, I found no URL of your blog anywhere. See yourself in a mirror before starting pointing fingers.
The executives of Square loooooooove you. You are the perfect type of fans they need. |
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joel_s95387
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I don't think I ever understood the word "fanboy", but I think I do now. |
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Successful_Troll
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I may never say this again, but that was awesome. And totally appropriate. |
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DemonEyesLeo
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You forget: spoiler[Cloud was never a member of SOLDIER. As for everyone else, I see that little plot hole, but maybe they just didn't have enough JENOVA cells (once again a bit of speculation)]. |
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Steve007101
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Well after I rewatched Advent Children (making a grand total of 2 times, one sub and one dub) I did realize the story is actually very weak in itself so I do agree completely with the D. The whole Jenova thing and reviving Sephiroth really was a convinient plot device. Jenova cells or whatever, they didn't even pull it off as summoning Sephiroth so there's no reason that it'd actually be him except just for the sake of it. Like they say, it was a marketing device to get all of our money. Sephiroth does rank in the top coolest villains of all time though if you ask me so it was a necessary sacrifice.
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Keonyn
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Did rank perhaps, but the whole fight between Cloud and Sephiroth in AC almost had me laughing the whole time at Sephiroth's horrible dialogue. Regardless of the language it was just bad and cheesy and just ... comical. AC may have well ruined my perception of Sephiroth.
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Wakaiba
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I need help with a scenario of showing this in my school's anime club, which I will head next year - would it be a good view if I showed the flashback special first, or is it too much directed as a refresher for those who have played the game? Is it set apart enough to be enjoied without having played the game?
I have seen it, I just have issues relying on my own opinion. |
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