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kotomikun
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Isn't it weird how social problems that have been around since the beginning of time are always caused by current pop culture obsessions? Crazy!
Problems like violence and sexual assault are impossible to eliminate and difficult to reduce, so people naturally want to believe there's a simple and convenient solution, like getting rid of those violent video games that they never liked anyway, or those stupid sexy moe characters. If they're the people being blamed for these issues, they'll try to deny that the issue actually exists--NRA members try to convince everyone that when guns don't work you should use more guns, male rapists are usually unaware that they are rapists. Maybe someday humans will be as good at fixing problems as they currently are at dancing around problems, but I'm not holding my breath. |
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a9e
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Is there a link? Sure, the claim passes a prima facia test. But what's so important about a mere "link"? What's so important about this link, and what other links aren't being factored in?
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics." I'd love to believe that there is some Japanese agency tracking the relation of sex crimes to anime viewing habits, but if this were true, I'd have suggest that they should probably reallocate their funds to nuclear waste clean-up, and catching criminals. It's easy to argue, and prove with some selective statistical analysis, that there are correlations. It depends on the sampling, and it depends on the premise that justifies the sampling. But at best, there is no way to make a strong argument that any media influence has any controlling or contributory effect on mental health. Nor does owning a gun, or owning male genitalia. Crazy people are a subset of every subset of people, however those subsets are defined. It will not help to decrease sexual abuse to decrease depictions of sexual abuse. Murder rates will not decline when we stop depicting murder in film. And murder rates may or may not decline because of gun availability, but whatever effect controlling a supposed proximate-cause might have, one cannot pretend to have addressed the original cause by simply arresting one aspect of the causal chain. Anime is pure fiction. If pure fiction causes all the problems, then just ban all fiction that depicts reality. |
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AnimeAddict2014
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you will be surprised. i'm sure somewhere out there there are freaks you are jacking off looking at this picture right now. you heard of this controversial series http://myanimelist.net/anime/2403/Kodomo_no_Jikan_%28TV%29 they listed it as an ecchi series..but this is not like your other ecchi series given you got grade school kids in this series there's a reason why they didn't licensed it here.. whichever company decides to license it for the NA region will be digging their own grave.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodomo_no_Jikan scroll down to Criticism and controversy to read more about it |
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Parse Error
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You can reach the bottom of that slippery slope from anywhere... Let's say you start out watching plain old vanilla porn. Eventually, you're going to get bored with it, and need something like BDSM or watersports in order to reach the same level of arousal. Before you know it, you'll have developed a tolerance to that level of smut as well, and won't be able to get off to anything but child porn, and soon after just seeing won't be enough and you'll have to carry those acts out yourself, all because you started out watching ordinary porn. |
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Foxaika
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Hey, Kodomo no Jikan isn't that bad.  Especially if you get to episode 6(if I remember correctly) of the first season. Legit feels. Manga is pretty good too. Wish they didn't get scared and decide not to distribute it here. All in all I enjoyed Kodomo no Jikan quite a lot. Hence my avatar actually 
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FenixFiesta
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This might sound "obvious" but wouldn't it somewhat productive to have PSAs simply expressing that "rape is wrong", if you don't tell people that smoking can cause lung cancer or over drinking might get you into an unfortunate accident, how the hell are some people that might be raised in a misogynistic environment supposed to understand the principle that woman are more than just "potential housewives".
Mind you the effort it is to teach the younger generations as someone that is already an adult is probably set in there ways. |
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Hameyadea
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Whoa there. Let's assume you are correct, what your hypothesis mean to high-speed media, say the Fast & Furious franchise? The Need for Speed games? By that hypothesis, a person who would consume those kinds of media will begin to "develop a tolerance" and will seek out higher levels of thrills. And yet I can't recall any conclusive research that showed any correlation between consuming media centered around high-speed chases to speeding on the highway. If there are individuals who, for one reason or another, can't differentiate between fictional characters, I.E. your linked Kodomo no Jikan, to real-world people -- in this case, children -- can it really be attributed to the art? Those kinds of people are, for the most part, only a very small percentage of those who consumed the media.
This sentence, in conjunction with the first part of the post, seem to imply that the incident had happened due to the predator not being satisfied anymore with fictional characters. May I ask what made you think that? |
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Shippoyasha
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Isn't it funny that they have been flinging BS at the otakudom for 50 years? Do they realize these fearmongering nonsense never works? The fandoms has been very peaceful and we should know by now that any criminal activity will result in the hobby being sullied. No true fan wants that.
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ChibiKangaroo
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I don't know why she would have had to do a bunch of research when she could have just gone on some popular anime sites and ordered a bunch of moe body pillows that show them in various stages of undress and looking at you frightened like they are about to be abused :0 that's all the research she would have needed lol.
Seriously though, I think most people understand the difference between moe character and real life. Sure they are cute, but I also don't doubt that they are modeled in away to attract. Never seen an ugly moe character and last time we saw an overweight moe character, a bunch of people went ballistic and said they hated her and want her to die... Personally I think there is an added layer of attraction to the moe character because their purity makes them unobtainable. Maybe people get excited about that too 
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Lili-Hime
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Personally, I find certain more sexualized aspects of moe and lolicon as kind of creepy but I'm sure not going to make the jump to saying people who enjoy that as a fantasy are going to start abusing real children. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of moe and lolicon fans have absolutely no interest in real girls in that age range. Usually if the attraction translates to real life at all they just go for women that are of age but have more 'youthful' looks (flatter chest, more of a baby face).
We can't make the jump and call moe fans pedos. It's like calling fans of shooters murderers. I'd also like to point out this kind of content is not exclusive to men. A lot of yaoi includes shouta elements or elements of an older man abusing an underaged boy. Sure, Kodomo no Jikan exists, but so does Boku no Pico (don't google that). It's not even content that's exclusive to Japanese culture. Some of the most heavily searched terms for pornography in the US and other countries is 'teen'. |
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jymmy
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Lili-Hime: Although your overall points about yaoi are accurate enough, Boku no Pico was produced for a male audience.
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Lili-Hime
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Wow lol I had no idea O.o I also still feel bad for mentioning the anime that dare not speak its name. |
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Exalted Incarnate
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It sounds pretty horrible, yaoi is just filthy garbage and as obito once said "those who abandon their comrades are trash but those who abandon their comrades for yaoi are even lower than that". The point is.. Yaoi is filthy garbage that isn't even worth burning.
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jymmy
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Exalted Incarnate: While there's some crossover, shotacon is considered a separate category to yaoi. Boku no Pico shares few if any stylistic similarities with yaoi works, and is much more in line with a vanilla anime aimed towards men in style and storytelling approach, only with the fetishistic object being a young boy rather than a beautiful woman.
Also, I realise you're being facetious, but your comments towards yaoi, aside from being hilarious, are unnecessarily negative, lacking in any real criticism and unwarranted. Why do you think it is "filthy", pray tell? Are you opposed to the idea of pornography in general, or does it being about guys just gross you out? I won't put words in your mouth, but you haven't yet made a worthwhile point other than bashing something you seem not to like "just because". Without taking the line that all porn is gross, there's nothing inherent about yaoi that's worthy of mocking, unless you're going to say the "yaoi hands" are somehow more offensive than the anatomical anomalies you see in, well, anime in general. |
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Exalted Incarnate
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Sorry for the negativity (a burning passion just exploded) well technically any immoral thing would bother me. Actually I don't mind The concept of yaoi being used for jokes,comedy, or misundertandings but when it is taken seriously to the point where the entire story is affected that's when it starts to get disgusting and even traumatizing. |
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