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Kalessin
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I expect that the drop in episode count has more to do with Bandai Entertainment trying to make money than the Japanese requiring it. It costs more to produce BDs than DVDs. They probably decided to reduce the episode count rather than increase the price. Has Bandai ever released any other shows (not movies) on Blu-ray? I'm not aware of any. So, unfortunately, we don't have anything to compare this to. It's quite likely that if they were to have free reign, they would release a dual-audio BD but still only have 4 episodes. Bandai is almost certainly hurting for money, and they haven't done much with Blu-ray yet, so they're likely to be very conservative and try and milk it for as much as they can in order to stay profitable. |
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pparker
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Nearly all Japanese students study English in school, but they don't become fluent as English speakers/listeners. The focus is on reading and writing to pass tests. Attaining fluency in speaking and listening a language for most people requires lots of practice--and being willing to embarrass yourself--with native speakers. Both fairly rare for the Japanese. So it's not surprising they would still rely on or feel more comfortable with text. Just to say, yes, this decision is making less and less sense. It appears only one thought was in mind--make it so Japanese won't import the BD's regardless of what it does to the customers for whom it was made. But don't forget, Bandai U.S. themselves made the decision to release this BD--I'm assuming, since they do not release exclusively for Bandai and also made a point of blaming the Japanese for lack of rights, indicating they are a separate entity. Bandai U.S. could have simply waited until they could get the rights like any other R1 company does. Saying that the "Japanese" wouldn't give them the rights doesn't absolve them from responsibility for designing and scheduling this release. And now I have to stop reading this thread. It pisses me off more each time. Back to re-watching Code Geass for the first time on those wonderful, extra-filled and high quality Bandai DVDs... |
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Jih2
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I can only see disaster for Gundam 00 and Code Geass BDs....
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luffypirate
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Crazy. Those are the two shows I was waiting for on Blu-ray. Guess I'll have to settle with owning the DVDs...which really sucks.
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Kalessin
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We have no clue what Bandai is going to do with Code Geass and Gundam 00 with regards to Blu-ray. We don't know what they're going to do with any show and Blu-ray (except for Kurokami) for that matter. They could release all of their shows on BD eventually or none of them (though it will likely be somewhere in between). If you wait for the BDs for any show other than Kurokami, you're not guaranteed to ever have the chance to get them. And, of course, as Kurokami shows, even if we do get them on BD, there's no guarantee that we'll get them dual audio. Now, I expect that some of Bandai's more recent shows which were actually produced in HD will eventually be released on BD with dual audio. But we could have quite a wait. So, if you want to wait for the BDs, feel free, but know that we have had no announcements of any kind from Bandai with regards to BDs for either Gundam 00 or Code Geass. So, if you wait, you may never get it. Or, if you buy them now, you may end up buying them a second time when they finally come out on BD. Personally, at this point, for shows that have been released in R1 but not on BD, I buy the DVDs and then download versions with the BD video and dual audio. Hopefully, we'll at least get most of the shows from the past couple of years on BD eventually, but even Funimation is only releasing a small portion of their shows on BD at this point. |
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configspace
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I think this is really the key difference between Funi's affordable box set releases for both DVD/BDs and Bandai Entertainment and perhaps why the Japanese Bandai Visual is much more wary. Funi always releases 1-2 years away after the last JP DVD/BD volume, while the Kurokami US release is immediately after the JP release, much like Kannagi. I'm kind of torn because I love the idea of fast releases, but at the same time, not crippled ones I mean Kannagi's release was like "whoa, half-season box (no-frills) immediately available for $25?" No more reverse importation fears? But then again, that was Sony/Aniplex. Or maybe it was just an experiment.
Well, they are a separate entity and I'm sure the people at Bandai Ent would love to get it uncrippled, since it's affecting their own income. Heck, they themselves would benefit from reverse importation! And Japan would not lose much, if any, or in fact gain more by lowering their prices for liked-but-less popular titles that people choose to ignore because of the massive expense in favor of more favored titles. So it's hard to really know how much sway they have in such negotiations. BTW, browsing the fantasium site out of curiosity and I find it funny to see every single US anime DVD/BD there available at the same time of US release, including all of Bandai's and Sentai/Neo-ADV's recent releases |
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Mohawk52
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Zalis116
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Given the growing sentiment of "official, professionally translated subtitled anime on DVD/BD is worthless" (as seen in every thread ever dealing with sub-only releases), I think this dub-only release is a good move. After all, people don't want to pay for language tracks they don't want, right?
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Haterater
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@ Zalis116
I see what you did there. Even though I'm a dub person, I never would have thought that this would happen unless it was the usual Pokemon type DVD stuff. So I wonder how those who feel the opposite now see how we feel when surrounded by sub-only DVDs. Perfect world, would love to see more audio tracks(more than just Japanese and English), but alas. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Like I've said, it's slightly different and not as simple as that "hah now you see how it feels!" because for the sub-only DVDs, can you really be that pissed over something that hasn't, or might not ever exist in the first place? It's crying over spilt milk that you haven't even purchased yet. Cutting out something that already does exist is a bad move because it already has recognition or people that might like it. The studios here can do whatever they please with a dub, make it sound dumb, hire bad actions, hire good actors, turn it in to a joke dub, but I feel it's imperative that they leave the Japanese dub alone. It's somebody's work and effort, and I wonder how not-including it on the BD affects royalties/other monetary issues back in Japan for the actors/recording studios/etc. |
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Mohawk52
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configspace
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Pretty sure he meant the fact that Japanese audio track is already available in the master tapes/source from the licensor, from whom Bandai US will be doing the transfer from. But yeah, regarding royalties, doesn't happen. The studio--animators, voice actors, writers--are basically contractors for the licensors/production committees. Unless it's self-sponsored or self-published, once a show is done, folks at the studio are basically out of the picture for that show.
Actually this whole debacle does provide us with a rare chance to experiment, to test what people would choose they had to choose one or the other but not both. I don't mean to be antagonistic but I hear all the time that dubs are critical for the success of a show, but how critical? Enough to stand on it's own without a sub? In other words, which would fare worse: dub-only or sub-only? |
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dizzon
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No, actually it doesn't. Regardless of how this series was going to be released; dub only, sub only or both, odds were very high it wasn't going to sell very well period. Its sales were horrid in Japan, so to think even with the Japanese track it would magically fly off the shelf would be the grandest of optimism. Any assumptions that would or will be made by how this release sells with only a eng dub track wont count for much. |
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Jedi Master
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Yeah, this guy's right, the "experiment" would be tainted by those other factors. |
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luffypirate
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Wanting isn't the issue. We wouldn't be able to get the Japanese track either way. It's this or nothing. For $20 a volume I'll take the dub. Let's hope it's a good one. |
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