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TitanXL
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That was easy enough. |
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Fencedude5609
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Wow, you're worse than Tenjin. You're someone dumb enough to think he knows what he's talking about. Also what Titan and RahXephon said (or rather implied). You can cherry-pick examples to prove this point either way, and it is always bullshit. Also Escaflowne got its "high level of detail" sure, but is generally only mediocrely animated, though there are a few really nice animated scenes. Anyway, Tenjin is full of shit and you should probably not listen to him on...anything. If you would like to discuss art and animation, I know a few people who actually know what they are talking about, and you can bring it up with them. |
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YamadaKun
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@TitanXL and @RahXephon Some of those look pretty detailed, but they don't touch old anime. Proof.
How TV shows looked in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/m/image/1356/12/1356120770096.jpg(Z Gundam 1985) Look at the detail on Kamille and the fitting visuals https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT54HE-Ngf0bNde6MgKUaoXMLMla5Qe1EcJWdV57SIAFhtO0hOT(Macross 7 1994) http://cdn.static.ovimg.com/episode/219315.jpg(Yu-Gi-Oh 2000) How OVAs looked in the 80, 90s and early 2000s http://cdn.static.ovimg.com/episode/358241.jpg LOGH 1980s(Beautiful) http://www.anbient.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/completa/screenshots/macross_plus/macross_plus-14869.jpg(Macross Plus 1994) http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4792359505_e4a2f69ce0.jpg Gundam 0083 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTayzl-GbEwkj-QOaEa7xL0sBYB6-U1DdP_xHvRC-HolSKaN5t8(FLCL 2000) How movies looked https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGd3qZXw8ClxkRCAhoPI-pwOj2vKrukaQ2KsPxej0gEjvqkyFy Wings of the Honneamise 1987 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpK9MvXVIRMYNbgwf8JToe1thOK1-v72SnHahMLT7xGShY2pGojA(Akira 1988) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3451276585_c18b83694e_m.jpg Char's Counterattack 1988 https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRv4lKMABSrbA9P_K97_SXRQFwB8oUcUqxYkMiRUlRL15IobrMp Gundam F91 1991 http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/dvdreviews33/a%20ghost%20in%20the%20shell%20blu-ray/new%20ghost%20in%20the%20shell%20_MG_2664%20-%20Version%202.jpg(Ghost in the Shell 1995) https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTc5Qy9tkneks4s3zsjpRoXNVW_FTlAuuKJZ3DmQsmlPJ7xz-mF3w(Ghost in the Shell Innocence) Now, how all formats looks TODAY http://animeforevers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fairy-tail-lucy-ova-1.jpg(You call this an OVA? Looks like TV quality) http://mlra.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/gg_valvrave_the_liberator_-_06_91ebbf3a-mkv_snapshot_09-12_2013-05-17_16-20-24.jpg(Looks cheap, especially for Sunrise) http://www.gundammodelkits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Gundam-00-Movie-A-Wakening-of-The-Trailblazer-Screenshot-02.jpg(You call this a movie? This is not a movie. The TV series looks better in certain scenes) As for you Fencedude, Tenjin is mostly right. Just admit it. |
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Kaisos Erranon
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As was pointed out, you're cherrypicking. You are also blind and an idiot besides since you seem to think your sockpuppetry is fooling anyone.
Modern anime almost necessarily look better due to advancements in production techniques and the technology available. I can't see how anyone could think otherwise. |
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Fencedude5609
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You really need to work on your sockpuppetry. One of the keys is to make sure you don't use signal phrases. In this case, the insistence that I admit that you (Tenjin) is right is a major flag. You spent multiple accounts in twitter trying to get me to admit that to no avail. In the process you randomly attacked friends of mine culminating in a number of very nasty racial, ethnic and sexual slurs. At which point I now block and report your accounts on sight, as does most everyone you've managed to honk off on Twitter. Which is why you go through accounts so fast. Now I'll admit, this "pretend not to be Tenjin" tack is new, but you suck at it. So I guess it doesn't really matter. |
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YamadaKun
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What does this have to do with SAO, besides the fact that most Toonami viewers long for the past? My family/personal life has nothing to do with Sword Art Online, which is an anime produced by Aniplex, is getting a dub by Cherami Leigh and Bryce Paperbook, is airing on Toonami and happens to have a ton of stigma attached to it in the west, due to reasons stated before. If you want to talk to me about my personal life, message me. Otherwise, let's get back on topic.
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Kaisos Erranon
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Your sock has a hole in it, Tenjin. I can see your fingers.
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Fencedude5609
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Oh ho, so suddenly you're related to Tenjin!
Thats cute. The relative ploy is always a good attempt for hiding discovered sock-puppetry. And actually even if you are different people (which I highly doubt) you're definitely carrying Tenjin's water, and you're clearly just as much of an [insult removed]. As for what this has to do with SAO, not much. But dealing with you always takes priority. [Mod Edit: It doesn't take priority as far as ANN is concerned. Your priorities are not those of the site, this forum or the other users in this discussion. Take your witch hunts to private channels.] |
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Key
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Yeah, I think we're done with this.
Here's the problem with the pic comparisons: unless you're comparing the best of one era with the best of another, the average with the average, stand-alone OVAs with stand-alone OVAs, etc., then you cannot establish any valid comparisons between the two time periods. Do anything else and you're just cherry-picking, as others have said. Want to prove to me that the '80s and '90s stuff was that much better? Show me a TV series from either of those decades which has better artistry than Moribito. Show me an OVA which outclasses Broken Blade for mecha action. Show me a fan service-focused series which outclasses Cat Planet Cuties. Show me a slice-of-life TV series which looks better - and is animated better - than Hanasaku Iroha. Show me anything - movie or otherwise - which matches the stunning look of Gankutsuou. If you can't match or beat the best then your claims have no credibility. Now, we are not continuing this topic further because we are straying off-topic. (And it's giving me the heebie-jeebies because I actually find myself completely agreeing with Fencedude on this.  )
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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I have no idea who Tenjin is, and it sounds like maybe I should keep it that way.
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Rahxephon91
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I mean I'll be the first one to say I'm not overly found of a great deal of character designs in modern anime, but you're being unfair.
For today's anime you keep picking examples that only prove your case and ignore that there are some anime out there that aren't moeblob or extreme fanserivice. And you ignore that the 90s and early oughts and whatnot had some extreme fanserivce shows as well. http://anime-fanservice.org/coppermine/albums/N_galleries/Najica_Blitz_Tactics/Najica_Blitz_Tactics1-01.jpg http://www.anime-zone.ru/inc/goods_wallpapers/plastic_little__the_adventures_of_captain_tita/plastic_little__the_adventures_of_captain_tita.jpg You keep talking about the great animation of these old titles ,but forget that many of them look like crap. Yeah if you take a single screenshot from Zeta it looks good, in motion there are many points of crap. You also use examples like Escaflowne, a show that was probably a highpoint of 90s tv animation and then for today you use cheap shonen fair like Fairy Tail. Why don't you use say DragonBall or something and make sure it's not a fight scene so you can see some examples on 90's blandness. Of course anime does not look like what it did before and everyone knows why. But where past the era of early computer work and modern anime has started to look pretty great. Is there some lack of detail, probably. But that dosen't mean anime today looks bad, a lot of it looks pretty good. I hate the K tv show, but it's got moments of fantastic animation. Stuff like GITS Arise and Unicorn look great. CG blending not so great all the time, but it's not like eariler anime did'nt have it's weakness. If your talking about the subject matter of modern anime, I won't lie I watch less anime and am not a fan of that steroypical moe stuff, but that dosen't mean there hasn't been anime thats come out. Mitchko E Hatchin, A Woman Called Fujiko, Redline, Psycho Pass, Unicorn, Magical Modaka, ect ect. There's still decent stuff. Maybe not that stuff that drew me into anime in the first place, but whatever I have other hobbies, I don't need there to be 50 million shows for me to watch a year. I'm fine with 1. If your talking about character designs, well your out of luck. Yeah I don't exactly like modern anime character designs either, but whatever. There's still stuff that aesthetically pleases me like Fujiko.
And while Macross F kind of sucks, you act like the original cast of Macorss where some original characters or something. Enduring maybe, but they were all archetypes. Minmay, dumb ditsy girl. Misa, cold bitch and so on. It's a fun and great show, but don't sit here and pass it off as some non goofy and extremely smart show. And the characters of F have no personality? I mean Sheryl is enough to prove you wrong, she's probably the most fun slutry character out there.
And I mean you're using Akira for chirstt sake. Nothing will ever look as good as Akira. That and Wings are from Japan awesome economy time. And quite honestly, Unicorn on average looks better then Char and F91, F91 in particular dosen't look that good at all. Many fight scenes look cheap. No fight scene in Unicorn looks bad. And you're picture of Innocence is not from Innocence, but SAC and well that show looks great to. Edit-Sorry, I did'nt know it was over. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Actually, you might be amused. |
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getchman
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wow, he's made rants on RyanSaotome, TitanXL, and Fencedude.
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Rahxephon91
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He made video rants, posted them online, and then told people to troll them because they take the internet too seriously. Think about that. |
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getchman
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Renai Circulation playing during his rant on Ryan is absolutely hilarious.
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