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The Mike Toole Show - Only Toonami?

That's a strange opinion to hold when Japanese properties regularly go through the same sort of revamps. Even Duel Masters has gone through traditional animation with Shobu to CG stuff with his younger brother. Then there's Yu-Gi-Oh!, Gundam, Battle Spirits and others that start fresh fairly often.

Like I said, it worked for mattress sales. It may have had more to do with audiences being card-gamed out.

Well, as gloverrandal pointed out, they're not really the same at all. But I was actually speaking more about length of series. Very few series last as long as anime does, because networks don't want that many episodes. 52-65 is the magic number that allows them to rerun shows after that. Outside of Spongebob, I don't know of any kids show, especially these days, that can claim to have as many episodes as any of the Yu-Gi-Oh series. Especially action cartoons with an actual plot to them. Networks already don't think kids are able to follow a story that goes on for over a few episodes, let alone 100.

A couple issues. First off, this one:

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The final follow-up, 2005's Zoids Genesis, was only shown on Toonami Jetstream.

This actually never happened. The plan was to distribute it on Toonami Jetstream, but it actually never happened. I heard the series was dubbed in it's entirety, but I heard supposed reports of it airing in some Asian markets. No rips ever surfaced, so it's anyone's guess who was all in that dub.

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For me, the absolute best Toonami show that nobody remembers is s-CRY-ed.

This... never actually aired on Cartoon Network's Toonami block, rather it ended up airing on Adult Swim's Action block. I actually saw this when it aired on the Adult Swim block. I think I remember people discussing back in the day that the show would've been a better fit on Toonami rather than Adult Swim.

So... yeah.

Either way, Toonami has been an interesting ride over the years. Some shows that aired on it, I haven't seen since it aired years ago.

I consulted TV.com, and these are the number of episodes of each Yu-Gi-Oh! series:

The big thing is how the TV executive system works on American television, as well as the existence of manga in Japan. For the latter, with the exception of Sazae-san, every long-running anime series I can think of was adapted from a manga, which, like American comic books, is free to go on until the audience becomes too small.

American television has every executive desiring to leave their fingerprints on the channel, and to do so, they will put in their own shows. The easiest way to do so is to cancel shows that will leave the least stink, which would be the most recent shows on that channel. Hence, either they'll barely last, or they'll last a very long time.

also Zoid Genesis never got an english dub. according in a previous panel during the anniversary, there was some serious backlog during discussion so no US company never got the chance. the only english dubs i know are from Animax Asia which are of course are just as bad as 4kdis.

I didn't get into Toonami until 2002, with Rurouni Kenshin & G Gundam being my first two shows from the block. Looking over what aired in that black, though, there are a couple of titles I really enjoyed from it, aside from the two I already mentioned. There was the 2001 anime reboot of Cyborg 009, which I enjoyed immensely & wish would one day get a proper & complete uncut release (probably will never happen, though, due to licensing issues). The other Mike didn't mention wasn't actually anime, but Megas XLR was such a love-letter to the medium that it can't be ignored; it's a shame that the powers that be were able to allow IGPX to get re-aired but not Megas as well (let alone Cartoon Network apparently not allowing any sort of home video release, either).

Similarly, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will always be about Leonardo, Raphael, Michelangelo, and Donatello.

Aww no mention of Yu Yu Hakusho huh? Still an all time favorite of mine. I guess that one did originate on Adult Swim though. It was a really nice surprise when it went over to Toonami though it did mean that it was censored more but it was awesome to watch it after school.

It probably would've gotten a mention if not for originating on Adult Swim and getting death slotted but I guess that was a better fate than what happened to stuff like MAR, Prince Of Tennis, & Bobobobobo.

jr0904 wrote:

also Zoid Genesis never got an english dub. according in a previous panel during the anniversary, there was some serious backlog during discussion so no US company never got the chance. the only english dubs i know are from Animax Asia which are of course are just as bad as 4kdis.

Darrel Guilbeau said it was recorded and he is dieing for it to be released. They are "sitting on it for some reason".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27FMQx6doY

I read that the dub did air in Philippines Cartoon Network: http://zph.proboards.com/thread/581
I assume after it failed to be released in the US they went with Philippines Cartoon Network so it didn't go to waste.

which is what i was saying. that was the dub version that animax did and that aired on the eastern side of CN like in the philippines and austraila. I'm afraid that no US company got the chance to do it though. however i definitely know darrel wanted the series to be dubbed and released but considering all the hub bub with the franchise owners and it was at the same time that toonami was singing its swan song, it wouldnt surprised me if they halted productions. though its unknowned whether or not if one was produced by a US or Canada dubbing studio. hopefully we would get an answer during the franchise's anniversary since they probably gonna have a panel either for this year or next year's conventions.