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harminia
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They don't always take it seriously and it is dangerous. Her case being treated right and there being evidence present doesn't contradict the fact that this stuff still happens a lot and there are a number of police who won't care or investigate. Like, I don't think you can look at a country that had to introduce female only carriages for trains and say "yes this place is 100% safe for women". |
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FeelMyBlade
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Statistically speaking, it's much safer for women in Japan than most other countries: especially the likes of the US or the UK which most people try to compare it to. This is just an empirical fact given Japan's low crime rate - especially violent crimes. Japan is far from perfect, of course, but this idea that it's more dangerous for women in Japan than most other countries is just baseless fear mongering. I see this kind of crap all the time in New York. Worse, even! People here usually have knives or guns on them or are tweaked out. As far as women only trains cars go, I would argue that's a sign that they do take it seriously, but the real issue is that a women only spaces in America usually never work because of discrimination laws that exist here that don't in Japan. There's been attempts at it like female-only fitness centers and movie theaters but they usually get sued for discrimination since in most states policies like that are not enforceable and exclusionary. There's certainly a demand for women only spaces in America, it's just impossible to do unless it's a place where you're expected privacy like a bathroom or a locker room, but even those have their own challenges and controversies in the modern era. But make no mistake if America could actually get away with women only or any kind of X only spaces without fearing a lawsuit they'd absolutely make them,. There's definitely demand for it and we see people try, but they almost always get dragged into court over it or relent on their policy. I remember a few years ago people tried to advertise a Black only anime convention and when non-Black people showed up and people got upset the con runners told them there was literally nothing they could do because kicking them out would be discrimination so they all had to just accept it. |
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Nate148
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enurtsol
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He's in the perfect job if he likes little girls
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MaxSouth
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Underage, not a child (if children are involved, the chargers are much harder, and understandably so). Regardless, though, they guy was playing out one of the most disgusting anime cliché of characters harassing underage and, sometimes, even children characters. It is perceived as kind of joke, not serious -- "it is just a cartoon!" -- but, apparently, some folks internalize this mentality for real and act upon it. |
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TheKillerAngel
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I think the points raised here often get overlooked. |
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harminia
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I never said Japan is the most dangerous place ever. I don't think anyone is saying that. I know murder wise it's a lot safer than other places. That doesn't change the fact it is still unsafe and things like groping etc have been pretty well documented there. The thing with the female carriage is, yes, it fixes a problem but only insomuch as it gives females somewhere to go. It doesn't tackle the actual problem of people thinking they can get away with groping, especially if they've come to expect the police to not care. And once again, the fact they had to even introduce them in the first place showed how bad it had gotten. Honestly our statements are ones that are not mutually exclusive. Japan can be an unsafe place for people, especially women, while still being safer in many regards than other countries. |
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TsukasaElkKite
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Hope he rots in prison.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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TheKillerAngel
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Public transit is used far more frequently in South Korea/Japan than in the US, which is something that needs to be considered in the context of groping. This kind of crime happens in the US but does not get as much coverage due to the reduced use of public transit.
https://transweb.sjsu.edu/sites/default/files/1810-Agrawal-Crime-Harassment-Public-Transit-SJSU.pdf
While this study only surveys students of one university, some international data can also be seen here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8564253/ (Interestingly, the above study shows that women in Tokyo feel safer, on average, when "after dark on the bus in" than women in other countries of industrialized nations). Additionally, data from that study suggests that women in major Western cities experience far more sexual harassment on public transit than those in Tokyo. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8564253/figure/fig2-1077801221992874/ Considering the prevalence of sexual violence is quite prevalent in the US when compared to other OECD nations (Source is https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country ), I would further hypothesize that if the US used public transit as extensively as Japan, China, India, or South Korea, women-only public transport in the US could be a plausible outcome. |
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BadNewsBlues
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But the subject is sexual assault/sex crimes.
Don’t know about being more dangerous but there is still some….problems https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/21/japan-poised-to-raise-age-of-consent-from-13-in-overhaul-of-sexual-offence-laws https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20201123/p2a/00m/0na/024000c https://nupoliticalreview.org/2021/01/31/cracking-japans-systemic-sexual-abuse-culture/ |
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Avec ou Nous
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SA is included in the category of violent crime. Every country has issues with under reported crimes. If you go by the 'expert opinion' over 80% of sexual assaults are not reported in America. It really shouldn't be a controversial thing to say it's much safer in Japan than other countries, let alone America where most people here probably live. Americans really should not be making 'jokes' about things like Japanese police being useless or Japanese laws being ineffective at protecting women. That glass house is mighty susceptible to stone throwing. But I feel it falls into the xenophobic 'weird japan' angle a lot of people and media try to do by painting Japan as this weird, backwards country in 2023. It's especially worse when we remember how Asian people specifically have being targeted for attacks and discrimination in western countries since 2020. |
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BadNewsBlues
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To use your own argument against you much like other countries have problems with law enforcement and their criminal justice system Japan themselves is not above corruption and incompetence in either so the criticism is justified.
Did you read either article? One of those articles I posted pretty much establishes the fact that in Japan sex assault victims don’t fare that much better because of issues in the system, insane troll logic, or just plain old sexism. To wit:
Shouldn’t have to mention that in many cases of sexual assault people have basically used their position or status over someone subordinate to them (father-child, teacher-student, boss-employee). Also pretty sure in most developed countries if you sexually take advantage of someone either drunk or high that can be considered sexual assault.
I don’t know how you came to this conclusion especially when it’s already been established in Japan that if you use drugs you’re treated much worse in society than if you commit sexual assault or even murder in some instances. In other words the criticism is somewhat valid. Not to mention you believe that all this criticism comes from western minds they can’t come from people that live in other Asian Countries or the like? |
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