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Shadowrun20XX
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TitanXL
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What good cinema? I got bored of cinema five years ago, and the only time I bother is when I am forced to go with the family sometimes. What was the last big film Americans hailed as amazing and unique? Inception or something? At the risk of sparking up that old debate, I found Paprika a better film in every regard. I don't really see any good cinema come out of Hollywood.
I don't recall ever mentioning lolis or anything cute. I don't really put much faith in the audience when it's the same reason Scary Movie and American Pie got so many bloody sequels. The Hangover is just the whole joke of 'guys getting drunk and waking up drunk = funny'. It's stupid, to put it simply. |
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PMDR
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This is it exactly:
Hollywood does things to make money (which they can then claim they didn't make so as to avoid actually paying on the "profits" that never happened). They don't do anything for any other reason. Take every idea anyone has about what this company will do and replace it with a goal of making money. Which they probably will not do. Because the Hollywood machine eats alive people with big ideas and deep pockets and big-eyed innocence. In the end, they will probably just become another Enoki Films or Gaga or one of the other licensing agents. There is room for that and some money to be made. |
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enurtsol
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Just like anime. Anime's "free-est" age in terms of variety and experimentation was in the 80's to early 90's when Japan Inc. was at its most prosperous, before the 2-decade-long (and still going) "lost decade." In the 80's-90's, a lot of different ideas were tried (and some failed, but tried nonetheless), and OAVs flourished.
Just off the top of my head in the last 5 years: a blockbuster - Dark Knight, a low budget - The Wrestler, and something in between - The Social Network. There are gems in the rough if ya know how to look. (BTW, just because something is better doesn't mean the other is no good. I find some films better than Ghibli films, but that doesn't lessen Miyazaki's stature.)
The first American Pie was good. One could as well say not to put much faith in the audience that watches any loli moe anime that they keep making more loli moe anime. Like a few cute girls being cute doing cute nothings, The Hangover about guys getting drunk and waking up drunk** was also definitely stupid, but it was fun. Difference is, we were under no illusion that it's stupid, not some high-brow masterpiece that we pretend to be better than anyone else. But it was a lot of fun, and to a lot of us, it's semi-autobiographical - sometimes the truth is funnier than fiction. 
(** BTW, the best parts of the movies are after they get drunk when they're sober, trying to retrace what happened to them. The drunk parts are pretty much relegated just to flashbacks. In fact, they spend most of the movies sober, so in a sense, the movies are not really about them drunk or drinking, which ends in the first 15 minutes.) |
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danshyu
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Regardless if you like American cartoon or not, anime does need a new way of conducting business that can actually sustain animation talents. American has been gotten pretty good at making plenty money off webcasts alone. Where Japanese depends way too heavily on merchandising that often means a thin line between make or break per each series produced.
Say what you want about American cartoons. But their animation has been slowly but consistantly getting better, and the staffs are all pretty well paid. Unlike the starving animators in Japan. All these without nearly as much outsourcing as what's going on in Japan. American animation industry has somehow managed to slap together a sustainable business model without sacrificing too much quality in their creation, in fact, they're actually slowly improving. Where Japanese industry are losing quality and quickly sliping into oblivion. |
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Ryo Hazuki
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Can you give me any examples? For example all direct-to-DVD Marvel and DC animated movies are mostly animated either in Japan or South-Korea and one of the most acclaimed series of recent, Avatar: The Last Airbender was also mostly animated in South-Korea. Theatrical animation (Disney, Pixar, Dreamworks etc.) is obviously a different thing, although movies based on TV series like Spongebob and Power Puff Girls are also usually animated in South-Korea. Most key animation at least in the anime series and movies I watch is mostly drawn by Japanese and even some of the inbetweens. It feels like the American studios do mostly just storyboards and lay outs. |
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