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Erebus25
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It would be best to just skip the middle-man, the streaming services, and have studios stream anime on their site. We wouldn't have everything in one place, but you wouldn't also have region restriction or ridiculous pricing systems.
CR really did a great job this season, at total of 56 anime airing ATM, 39 available in random European country. No one can tell me it's not worth the money. |
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SkerllyFC07
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You mean that, for example, good competition means that Netflix and Crunchyroll would have Shokugeki no Soma all the seasons released so far plus the OVAs? Is that the thing every anime viewer wants for true? I say that anime viewers would rather have anime as a medium being niche if it´s for the sake of conviniently not paying much money because of this competition, Because most of the time, the hate comments towards Netflix and Amazon sound less like legit complains and more like bitching and sounding like an entitled consumer who thinks of him/herself as a super rich burocrat who has to have the highest quality dishes on the table. For example, there was a long period of time in LAtin America where licensing anime series was more difficult(specially in regards to age rating), and from 2006 till 2016 there were less and less dubbed anime series than before. Now that we have this(IMO) blessing of streaming service competition to facilitate anime broadcasting, I´d hate that Netflix obtaining anime series and dubbing them becomes quickly a thing of the past because anime viewers in the US complain and bitch about Netflix handling anime, instead of presenting the complains to customer service so they can do better in the future. Please don´t let that things like this happen to us, or Asia, or some Europe countries with lack of anime access, and address the complains to Netflix and Amazon in a more responsible way. |
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Daizo
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...Yes? In fact, Netflix's anime strategy also makes a great argument for why non-exclusive licensing would be far superior for consumers. Thanks to exclusive licensing, anything Netflix grabs it gets to keep legally hostage for months on end, but imagine if all those shows were also being simulcasted on Crunchyroll, Amazon and so on - you can bet it wouldn't take very long for Netflix to reverse course and actually start to simulcast the shows as well. Last edited by Daizo on Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:07 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Blanchimont
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Seems Wakanim(wakanim.tv) is taking over several of Strike shows, like last season with Made in Abyss for example, for Scandinavia inclusive Finland. Might want to check there also. |
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Daizo
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Some Anime Strike shows are also actually available in Finland on Amazon's Prime Video (which is its own service with just a single monthly fee, no Prime required), but this is basically limited to Amazon's own licenses (so you get 1-2 shows per season at most, not exactly great value for your money if anime is all you're after). Anything from Sentai (which forms a good chunk of Anime Strike simulcast content) will not be available, although most of them will be available here in Finland on HiDive (which is basically Sentai's dedicated streaming outlet). Video quality -wise it loses to Amazon though (as does pretty much any other service outside of Wakanim, which actually has really good quality for the DRM-free downloads you can purchase). All in all though Crunchyroll easily offers the best value for money when it comes to subscription services, basically always offering shows in double digits every season where every other service is stuck in the single digits. (Incidentally, just earlier today I was compiling a list of the current season's shows and their legal availability in Finland - you can check it out here). |
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Parsifal24
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What we have now really is not competition it is the appearance of competition while various services hold exclusivity to certain series and the consumer is left to decide which services are the best investment.
Not to mention the strange cognitive dissonance I've seen creeping into the thinking of some fans and content creators on YouTube who are fine pirating series Netflix has exclusivity to when it is not available. While still subscribing to Netflix or some proclaiming how Anime Strike and Netflix are "killing" Anime Streaming while receiving backing from Crunchyroll. I don't think you will ever get true competition in an Streaming Ecosystem as it currently exists partially due to the services battling over Exclusivity rights to series. Of course this is more something that would need to be worked out with Japanese rights holders more than anything else. Than there is the hypothetical question of say we get this Monolithic multinational Anime Streaming Monopoly. Who is to say the same problems with have now with streaming rights for various territories are still going to exist. It's very much trying to fight a proverbial hydra so to speak, that and I can see it very easily going the way Lord Acton's Dictum but that's me just being pessimistic. In conclusion it's a complex issue that will probably not be solved in the near future. |
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TnKtRk
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it's like people are saying,
"Why do I have to watch new episodes Game on Thrones only on HBO, I should be able to watch it on the CW as well?" "The Walking Dead shouldn't be an AMC only show, it should run on SyFy as well." |
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Zalis116
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Posts: 6868 Location: Kazune City |
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I've never really understood the objection to multiple service subscriptions. If you look at the long view, the monthly cost to subscribe to every service is about the same as the inflation-adjusted cost of buying one or two 3-5-episode single-volume anime DVDs back in 2005. Buying 12 DVDs a year in those days could get you 3-4 1-cour shows, which as angelmcazares notes, is about what newcomer HiDive alone has for this season alone. To say nothing of the intangible benefits of getting the shows as they air in Japan, instead of 18-24 months later in the pre-streaming days. And this objection seems to be unique to the anime viewerbase. Steam doesn't have every video game, and Netflix/Hulu don't have every US movie and TV show, yet you don't see the same kind of "Unless one service has EVERYTHING, I'm going to keep on pirating" mentality in gamers and fans of Western entertainment.
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relyat08
Posts: 4125 Location: Northern Virginia |
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^I always love your comments Zalis, thank you!
You can pay for Prime monthly. With Strike it is $13 per month, roughly the price of Hulu. Last edited by relyat08 on Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:40 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Erebus25
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It's not the same since those shows have production backing in those networks, like CR does for some anime or Netflix with Devilman. |
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Zin5ki
Posts: 6680 Location: London, UK |
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Woe that their offering is only available as part of Prime itself! At least you've had the fortune be spared the superfluous expense though. Perhaps somewhat resignedly, my current preference is to simply accept Amazon's acquisitions as seasonal casualties. |
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TnKtRk
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it's exactly the same: exclusivity. Paying to have exclusive rights to air/show that show, whether that comes from being part of the production or just paying broadcast/streaming rights. |
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Merxamers
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Not entirely true; there are lots of people who are annoyed at how many services you need to subscribe to in order to watch the top live action shows. If you want to watch Star Trek Discovery, you have to have a specific subscription; there are some shows that are only simulcast on Hulu, some that are only available through HBO Go, etc. If anything, this is a problem that is only recently starting to affect anime. Remember; in recent years, Game of Thrones seasons and episodes have been the most pirated. |
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#861208
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This exactly. |
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Blankslate
Posts: 425 Location: Atlanta, GA |
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Alternate title:
"Man who has never taken an Economics class doesn't know what Monopolistic Competition is and Claims all Competition is Good" |
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