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agila61 wrote:

OtakuExile wrote: Ahh, they broke even. Well, the only message I convey from crunchyroll is that piracy, donations and the help of fansubs though a perpetual fanbase can really pay off, if you use it correctly. ... that is, "using it correctly" as in, putting together venture capital finance to generate the money required to abandon user uploads in favor of content owner uploads and add over a year and a half of work. Easy! One wonders why all the bootleg sites don't do the same.

I've always wondered since they went legit, just where the venture capital money came from and how much those involved knew about the site's previous incarnation. I'm just genuinely curious since knowledge of the previous actions would probably give people pause.

I really don't think they have really changed their ways

My thoughts exactly. The site started out as a illegal fansub site and to be frank, I really don't think they have really changed their ways or even feel bad for what they once did.

Some people deserve redemption and some don't. I am not saying they don't deserve a second chance, but given their past, I am not saying they exacting deserve redemption either.

Frankly put, I still don't trust Crunchyroll and because of their past, that may be not be wise to trust them.

There isn't a single unauthorised video on crunchyroll these days, isn't that enough of a change? I believe a number of people who first created the anime industry in American started out either watching, sharing or creating VHS fansubs, what about them?

CR has the trust of a number of large companies in Japan which probably wasn't easily won, even with money greasing the palms. Unlike Crunchy, Youtube still hosts thousands of fansubbed and otherwise illegal videos as well as being "trusted" with any number of legal streams from huge corporations, yet there's no great clamour for them to "redeem" themselves. They take down videos when asked to but so did Crunchyroll back when they first made the headlines and people started taking notice.

I think the problem stems from the feeling that there was a certain amount of dismissal for what they used to do. There was no punishment and now they get to work with Japanese companies and toot their horn. Normally, people don't get bragging rights when they fix a mistake.

I'd be very excited for game console integration. It works fine on my laptop that's connected to my TV but all of my video content looks better when I run it through my PS3.

Digital manga initiative sounds interesting although it'd take some heavy-hitter titles to make me subscribe to it. Also, I hope that whatever is system where you pay a fee to access the entire library rather than paying per item, whether that be volume, series or chapter.

Coming to android is a good thing, although I wonder how legible subtitles are on anything smaller than an iPad. I'm getting older and I don't want to have to read microtext.

Sounds like good stuff is on the way. Hopefully they pick up more anime titles. In the first few seasons of legit CR they were grabbing what felt like double digit numbers of series. I want it to go back to that.

There isn't a single unauthorised video on crunchyroll these days, isn't that enough of a change? I believe a number of people who first created the anime industry in American started out either watching, sharing or creating VHS fansubs, what about them?

Lets be honest here. If it wasn't for those "big investors" Crunchyroll would still be running right along side those others that you mentioned today regardless.