Forum - View topicNEWS: Bandai Channel to Stream Anime in U.S., Eurasia at Start of 2010
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rockman nes
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Well aren't you just a swell chap to be with |
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Annf
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Bandai Channel is primarily a rental clearinghouse. The actual money transactions and streaming are handled by affiliate sites, though Bandai has their own self-affiliate in the form of www.dot-anime.com. A dozen or so B-Channel affiliate sites exist. Most of the B-Channel catalog is paid rental only. The prices vary and there are full-series-at-once package deals, but 100 yen per episode for a few days rental is typical of single episodes. All affiliates but one use streaming, and as noted in the article, the current standard in Japan for net anime (not just B-Channel) is WMV, not Flash. The one non-streaming exception is videx.jp, which provides normal http downloads of WMV files, often slightly higher quality (3Mbps, vs. the 2Mbps and 1Mbps (most common) of other sites). Both the streams and downloads are protected by time-limited Windows Media DRM (wouldn't really work as a rental otherwise). Some newly-airing TV series are aired on the net through B-Channel for free for one week, moving to paid rental archive after that. Usually these shows are on a one-to-four week delay after the TV broadcast. (Simulcasts like Crunchyroll are virtually non-existent in Japan, though the 12 hour delay on Umineko is not bad. Geass R2 at 7 hours was the fastest I've seen.) First Gundam itself, as noted in the article, recently started a "one ep per day for free" run. Each episode is available for 24 hours before being replaced with the next one. If you miss a day, you can't see that ep for free, you'll need to rent it for 100 yen. The main b-ch.com site blocks non-Japanese IP addresses from the video content, which includes the aforementioned free Gundam stream. Many Bandai Channel affiliates do not block foreign access, and I personally watch and rent many shows that way. (I live in the U.S.) Oddly enough, despite b-ch.com blocking video access, Bandai's own b-ch affiliate site, www.dot-anime.com, does not, so you can rent shows there as well as buy Lantis label download music. (Bandai also has the Lantis catalog on the Japanese iTunes Music Store and recently announced they'd be placing it on the North American iTMS as well.) Japan doesn't have sites like Crunchyroll or Funimation where entire series are available for free for long periods of time. There are occasional temporary promotions (e.g. right now Episodes 1-19 of Basquash! are free on YouTube) but usually just one ep at a time of new shows are free, and older series are paid-only, often with the first ep free as a sample. So, the foreign market is accustomed to getting a better deal than the Japanese market. We'll have to see how Bandai deals with that. I'm personally perfectly happy to rent individual shows but I expect a lot of people would express...dissatisfaction...at a rental site in the age of Crunchyroll, so they may go for a CR-like model. Bandai at least has the advantage of being able to use it as a promotional vehicle for their own foreign-market DVDs as well. |
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RedSwirl
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I'm just glad we're getting another chance to see OG Gundam. Hope it doesn't get pulled for low ratings again.
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hikaru004
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If it gets Shin Mazinger Z and MS Igloo sequel over here, I'm all for it.
Nice to see Bandai Channel finally coming over. |
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DomFortress
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My second point is that streaming medias with Japanese only audio track won't get people interested in anime, anymore so than people browsing the internet on their own time. There's no real life interactions among the audiences themselves, just like the most stimulation you can get by watching porn on your computer is you masturbating yourself.
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GWOtaku
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Yes, fair point. You did a great job ignoring facts and logic the way that far too many "normal" people tend to do. Apparently you would rather assert your supposedly superior objectivity and reasoning instead of demonstrating it by giving me a real reply. Address the arguments or don't waste our time, although so far I'm not optimistic that you aren't just here to troll people. While you're at it, assuming that you bother, two questions. First: By the way, how do you think the anime fanbase grew in America? People were watching subtitles on VHS tapes once upon a time. But you argue that subtitles never, ever grow a fanbase based on nothing but your own personal experience. Second: What would you rather see them do to market the "right" way? In your ideal world, what gets done? And is this incompatible with that, or can you at least acknowledge that this is generally a good thing? |
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DomFortress
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I want Bandai to put more care into their contents by putting some real effort in post productions, not just treat them like some internet rental peep shows. The rest is all up to the fans on how they interact with the said contents. If they don't facilitate interactions among people outside of the fan base with the medias, then that's their lost. |
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Sam Murai
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Or...maybe them starting off with MSG is a way of both celebrating its anniversary and to kick off B-Ch's global coverage with a bit of anime history? Yeesh, not to sound rude, but you really took a big jump there, reading far more into this than necessary. Nowhere did Bandai insinuate that they are going online-only with their products, and honesty, that would be a foolish venture. Despite the market, discs are still the major focal point of distribution and will be for some time. Digital distro, while I strongly support it, is another means and not the end one. Having a service like this or any other form of video-on-demand is a great complement to and method in obtaining more revenue and getting more attention to titles. Other entertainment businesses have been doing the same thing for much longer than the anime companies have and none of them have eschewed discs for non-physical media in some grand exodus. The amount of worrying and hand-wringing is overdone. And having "only ten" subtitles is a disappointment? That's more than one could ever expect of any streaming site to support and is a very encouraging sign for how inclusive they want their service to be (it was already so when such hints were dropped a few months ago). And since you seem to be concerned about Gundam, you should see that as great news, since it will open more eyes to it and help garner more revenue for discs sold outside Japan. Going online-only, even in this environment, will only get you so far. They still need cash coming in from as many places as possible, so cutting off your disc production altogether (while it's still bring in money) would be a bad business move, to say the least. That's not happening any time soon, if ever. It's great to see B-Ch expanding and the move should help, and not hurt, that side of things. |
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DomFortress
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Scamp
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I was expecting a whole bunch of 'hurrah for worldwide streaming for once' comments. I guess people will always find something to complain about
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kgw
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While it's quite understable that Bandai want to sell their product overseas, and reaching millions of people, it also means "to hell with local distribution". I mean, why would you spend milions of yens/euros/dollars/etc. into licensing something if they are going to show it in an official, legal way for free (sorta)?
So, even as a fan I can rejoice of Bandai decision, as a professional, that are not really good news, because Bandai is not paying me for being a fan, so... |
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Quark
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You know, I had the nagging feeling that there was going to be someone who would decide to take issue and complain about this news. Lame.
This sounds like good news, because European fans have been saying for a long time that they're being left out of the loop as far as free streams online are concerned. It's good that these fans are now getting a chance to watch anime online, for free, and 100% legally. Let's hope this catches on with other companies. |
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samuelp
Industry Insider
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Who said it would be free? |
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Primus
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Desperate move by a company on the cusp of collapse?
I love how it doesn't specify if America, means North America, or the United States Of America (considering the News Title, I suspect it'll be the later). So, once again Bandai flips the bird to Canada? |
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The_X_box_360
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Thus, Bandai starts to get serious about the emerging online streaming anime market. *looks at Crunchyroll*
(time for someone to get their thumbs out their -blank- and start trying to license some far more desirable content, again) *looks at Crunchyroll, again* I'm a big fan of legal online streaming anime, even if it does come at the cost of less DVD releases and region/language support. -I, much like DomFortress, feel that moving into digital distribution of sub-only content will not significantly help to expand the anime fanbase. -However, I do think that it will do a lot to reclaim the millions of illegal fansub and pirated anime users as paying customers, as well as, their close fan acquaintances whom they first exposed to anime through their illegal fansub and pirated video distribution sources. -Dub streams, and other such things, could always be added to the mix, to aid in expanding the fanbase, once the ball gets rolling. Revenue gained from advertising, DTO, and premium membership fees has the potential to save what more and more people agree is an industry being strangled by illegal fansub and pirated video distribution. There are countless media and social sites, that don't even posses a fraction of the amount of media content Bandai Channel has access to, who's ad revenue dwarfs Bandai's total revenue several times over.... to an insane degree. (I speak out of my backside in the previous sentence, but you get my point) |
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